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firephoto
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Re: Where are the details?

said by openbox9:

said by sandman_1:

You sir need to stop touting the party line and start thinking for yourself.

Pot meet kettle? I haven't read all of the legislation that's been pushed around in various states, but the pieces that I have read aren't onerous to municipalities. In fact, the legislation tends to be more fiscally conscious to ensure money is spent and accounted for appropriately. Something that all taxpayers should applaud.

Which is an intentional hurdle for municipalities that makes them have to increase their price while gaining no additional revenue.

In Washington State the connection itself was outlawed and can only be provided by a private isp. Now you see all the public utilities here catering to the profits of these private companies instead of their utility customers.
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openbox9
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said by firephoto:

Which is an intentional hurdle for municipalities that makes them have to increase their price while gaining no additional revenue.

Wow. Silly me for being thankful for fiscal scrutiny.


firephoto
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said by openbox9:

said by firephoto:

Which is an intentional hurdle for municipalities that makes them have to increase their price while gaining no additional revenue.

Wow. Silly me for being thankful for fiscal scrutiny.

Bull, it's a bunch of crap so the incumbents don't have to LOWER their price to compete. They pass these laws and they maintain their over the top profit margins.
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firephoto
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said by openbox9:

said by firephoto:

Which is an intentional hurdle for municipalities that makes them have to increase their price while gaining no additional revenue.

Wow. Silly me for being thankful for fiscal scrutiny.

Bull, it's a bunch of crap so the incumbents don't have to LOWER their price to compete. They pass these laws and they maintain their over the top profit margins.

openbox9
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It's about leveling the competitive landscape.


KrK
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BS, It's about making sure there *IS* no competitive landscape.

openbox9
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BS, it's about leveling the competitive landscape.

openbox9
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I'm failing to understand what is so awful about ensuring municipalities cover their expenses in an equitable manner.


KrK
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Yes, Yes, preventing competition fosters competition.


KrK
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Pass a law where AT&T's competitors decide what artificial deadlines AT&T must meet on upgrades and rollouts and profit margins--- or else must exit the market/forfeit.

Hey, it's all about the financial responsibility, after all.
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firephoto
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said by openbox9:

I'm failing to understand what is so awful about ensuring municipalities cover their expenses in an equitable manner.

Because they never do, they subsidize the deployment of large expensive over many years or decades. Dams, power plants, sewer systems, water systems are never paid for up front but instead pay for themselves over a very long time.

If the incumbents NEED money NOW then that's their problem, not the municipality they don't want to compete with.
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openbox9
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What are you talking about? AT&T covers its expenses just fine.

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said by firephoto:

Because they never do, they subsidize the deployment of large expensive over many years or decades. Dams, power plants, sewer systems, water systems are never paid for up front but instead pay for themselves over a very long time.

I have yet to read proposed legislation that requires municipalities to front 100% of the capital for an infrastructure build.


KrK
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We'll let the competitors decide on the deadlines and goals and then we'll see. We'll call it "Fairness."

openbox9
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I just breezed through this legislation and it doesn't appear to have any such provision. Where is your concern coming from?


KrK
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Of course it doesn't have any such provision. It's written by Telco/Cable industry lobbyists, to prevent competition.

openbox9
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I don't understand what you're trying to argue. What exactly is your concern?