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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:07:02 EDT

Anonymous_ posted : Just call comcast and tell them you got a shocked from the cable line
they will have the Power co and comcast out in a few hours

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:57:12 EDT

NetFixer posted :

said by Robotics:

Both Comcast and the power company have been out here twice, and both say there is nothing they can do. Although the power company has untangled it on both occasions.

The power company is concerned about the legal liability they might have if the insulation were to wear through and the Comcast cable was not properly grounded. They may also be concerned about outages (and even possible power company property damage) if the insulation were to wear through and the Comcast cable was properly grounded (I think the fireworks display in that scenario was previously mentioned in this thread). OTOH, the power company does not have the authority to do anything with Comcast's cable other than temporarily correct the potential problem by untangling the cables.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:00:20 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by gar187er:

if its the poco or home owners pole, why should comcast have to pay for something like that?

Just to make it clear in case I haven't, It is the power company's pole, has the markings and tags. I only pay for the security light on it.

Problem is, power company wont do anything about it (and its their pole) and Comcast for whatever reason wont move the cable from where it originates from (across the street) down a bit so the cable wont be completely under the power line.

Both Comcast and the power company have been out here twice, and both say there is nothing they can do. Although the power company has untangled it on both occasions.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:50:40 EDT

gar187er posted : if its the poco or home owners pole, why should comcast have to pay for something like that?
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:45:07 EDT

tvoldtimer posted : Wouldn't a practical solution be for the power company (at Comcast's expense) to install rigid spacers (non-conductive material) between the cables? I've seen this done many times on long spans that tend to droop.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:18:37 EDT

SolarPup posted : Just so you know, that issues like this, Comcast will never touch it while it's wrapped around a power line.. we were told NEVER to touch anything touching power and the power company has to untangle it.

However, they really should have moved you down and done something different.. and if it was redone as RG11, my guess would be that it would weigh enough to not get tangled at that point.. maybe not.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:59:08 EDT

graysonf posted : Don't blame it on the kids. Tell them I did it. After all it was my idea in the first place.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:28:57 EDT

BlueMist posted : Like Pokesph said, put a weight on the cable. A pair of old sneakers up over the cable will hold it down nicely and if someone gripes you can always claim some kids threw it up there... Just make sure the shoe laces are synthetic and not cotton so they will last longer.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:16:40 EDT

gar187er posted : the pole height is not comcast responsibilty.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:58:07 EDT

mb posted :

said by gar187er:

... either way i fail to see the issue...this is a common occurrence and no harm will come of it..

The install is not to code. Start with the Virginia State Corporation Commission »www.scc.virginia.gov/pue/complaint.aspx

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:01:06 EDT

iknow posted : something like this »www.shortwavestore.com/dogbone-i···ion.html but with clamps on the ends would stop that. maybe they make something for electric service?.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:53:20 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by wa2ibm:

I would make darn sure that the ground block that's supposed to be at your end of the cable drop is properly grounded with a large guage wire (I'd use #6). The ground is required by code. Thus, if the insulation on the outside of the coax should be damaged AND short to a hot wire on the power drop (also with damaged insulation), then the only thing that should happen is the cable goes POOF. All current should be shunted to ground through the ground block. Might make a good show.

Other than that, my only other suggestion is the suspended weight thing suggested above by pokesph.

It appears to be #6. And I agree on the suspended weight.
I just might see what I can do about doing that.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:49:29 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by Johkal:

I'm sorry, but your statement just gives me the image of Robotics chewing on the cable and getting his fillings blown out of his mouth. LMAO! :o :D ;)

I got a good laugh out is it myself :)
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:45:38 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by AVonGauss:

Unless I'm totally missing something, it more than enough to knock a filling or two out of someone's mouth if the insulation gets worn or chewed through.

And Comcast's leased modem, and of course my equipment.

I can only hope the ground block works when needed.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:39:54 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by CableTool:

Do you know if that is a 6 line or the thicker RG11 or .320?

As of now I am out of the area till Monday. I will check that then.
Off the top of my head I thing its RG11, but not sure.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:24:38 EDT

AVonGauss posted :

said by Jabbu:

it just isn't going to happen.

Don't you mean - "it'll only happen once"?

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:52:00 EDT

Jabbu posted : Very common. At the very worst, the cable jacket will open after 5+ years of it causing cable issues. I highly doubt it will ever break through the power jacket, that is like a kite string trying to cut through wood, it just isn't going to happen.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:25:00 EDT

gar187er posted : your power line isng high enough, thus the cable line cant have sufficient clearance over the road without being right on top of the power line...who ever owns the sub pole needs to put in a taller sub pole....

or as was said, comcast can move your drop a couple feet down the strand so its not parallel with the power line...

either way i fail to see the issue...this is a common occurrence and no harm will come of it..
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:14:23 EDT

anon posted : There is soppose to be some type of metal tention guide wire attached to this cable

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:00:14 EDT

pokesph posted :

said by graysonf:

Nah. I vote for this.

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That works as well :)
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:52:47 EDT

graysonf posted :

said by pokesph:

next time it's unraveled, throw a weight, 2 - 4 lbs, up onto the center of the drop.. That should hold the cable down enough during high wind to keep it from wrapping itself over the power drop.

Nah. I vote for this.

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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:44:03 EDT

AVonGauss posted :

said by Johkal:

I'm sorry, but your statement just gives me the image of Robotics chewing on the cable and getting his fillings blown out of his mouth. LMAO! :o :D ;)

LOL. I definitely meant it to be a little light hearted and not so doomsday-ish, but it definitely should be reconfigured properly. It might be fine for many years, but even that "low voltage" is enough hurt or kill someone.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:17:15 EDT

wa2ibm posted : I would make darn sure that the ground block that's supposed to be at your end of the cable drop is properly grounded with a large guage wire (I'd use #6). The ground is required by code. Thus, if the insulation on the outside of the coax should be damaged AND short to a hot wire on the power drop (also with damaged insulation), then the only thing that should happen is the cable goes POOF. All current should be shunted to ground through the ground block. Might make a good show.

Other than that, my only other suggestion is the suspended weight thing suggested above by pokesph.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:50:55 EDT

tshirt posted :

said by Johkal:

I'm sorry, but your statement just gives me the image of Robotics chewing on the cable and getting his fillings blown out of his mouth. LMAO! :o :D ;)

And all the time we thought it was squirrels ;) :D

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:49:22 EDT

tshirt posted : And could be really bad for modems STB's and ATTACHED equipment :o

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:48:15 EDT

Johkal posted :

said by AVonGauss:

said by rfnut:

If it were my drop I would ignore it. Its not a high voltage line.

Unless I'm totally missing something, it more than enough to knock a filling or two out of someone's mouth if the insulation gets worn or chewed through.

I'm sorry, but your statement just gives me the image of Robotics chewing on the cable and getting his fillings blown out of his mouth. LMAO! :o :D ;)
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:28:35 EDT

AVonGauss posted :

said by rfnut:

If it were my drop I would ignore it. Its not a high voltage line.

Unless I'm totally missing something, it more than enough to knock a filling or two out of someone's mouth if the insulation gets worn or chewed through.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:19:54 EDT

rfnut posted :

said by Robotics:

...

So I ask....what would you all do?

If it were my drop I would ignore it. Its not a high voltage line.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:08:21 EDT

pokesph posted : next time it's unraveled, throw a weight, 2 - 4 lbs, up onto the center of the drop.. That should hold the cable down enough during high wind to keep it from wrapping itself over the power drop.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:13:12 EDT

THZNDUP posted : They 'could' move the drop at the line pole a bit out into the span and go for radial clearance as well. They might not have to pull the strand too far out of lead. It's one of those things where you just have to be there. [shrug]
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:19:18 EDT

anon posted : Cable company personnel are not trained linemen. They really aren't supposed to be messing with lines that are wrapped up in power, even if they think they know what they are doing.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:12:44 EDT

CableTool posted : The only option I see is to pull the run TIGHTER so it will not blow in the wind as much. With a long run like that however, you can only pull up so much slack. Also, you might not be ABLE to pull it any tighter as the tighter it gets, the higher it gets. And the higher it gets, the closer to Power it gets ( a moot point now.. but specs are specs) It can only be so close to power.
looks like a catch 22.
Tighten it up, string it higher and its to close to power and in danger of a fine or just being cut down by power.
Let it be where it is and it ends up not only being "close" to power, but physically wrapped around it!

Re-routing from another section, run, pole would be the only option I would investigate if this was my area.

Do you know if that is a 6 line or the thicker RG11 or .320?
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:41:40 EDT

ilikeme posted :

said by Robotics:

said by whfsdude:

Reach out to Comcast and the Power Company. Document everything. Ticket numbers, times of visits, etc.

Then if they do not fix it, reach out to the PUC.

What is PUC...public utilities? (my best guess). And I have been keeping tabs on times this happens. Thats why I think its the same person doing this. But hard to say. Everyone else blows their horn but one train. One can go by and blow the whistle and half hour later one will come by and you would never know it till its there. (more or less)

BTW like your name here WHFS I grew up in NoVa. and that was the one of two stations I listened to.

The other being WGTB One Nation Underground
This goes way back :) (And the FCC took care of them).

Thanks for the suggestions

PUC = Public Utilities Commission. Usually a state government department.
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Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:23:41 EDT

Robotics posted : The power company. Dominion Power.

I agree it does seem like a private pole but has the power company's metal sticker on it with numbers.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:21:46 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by whfsdude:

Reach out to Comcast and the Power Company. Document everything. Ticket numbers, times of visits, etc.

Then if they do not fix it, reach out to the PUC.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:06:20 EDT

jack b posted : This looks like a private pole. Who is responsible for maintaining the area/street light mounted on the drop pole?

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:27:20 EDT

whfsdude posted : Reach out to Comcast and the Power Company. Document everything. Ticket numbers, times of visits, etc.

Then if they do not fix it, reach out to the PUC.

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 11:16:38 EDT

medbuyer posted : Comcast lines going to you clearly just uses the utilities pole to get to you. Utility owns the poles, Comcast just leases space...clearly Comcast's responsibility but then again, that's the only way for them to give you service.

unless, you get it buried by whoever, the bill will be costly....getting permits to dig up that street might even be a gargantuan task...

is it creating problems for your connection? I would get me a power surge or lightning arrestor to augment that cable coming into your house so it won't fry any electronics...and make sure it's insured or covered by home insurance at least...

maybe installing a whole house surge protection device inside your electrical panel will help...

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:23:31 EDT

anon posted : I'd report it to the local municipal, if anyone governs it, they do. If they cannot help you I'd cancel the service and request they remove the drop from my property [last pole to your house at least].

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:17:15 EDT

Robotics posted :

said by medbuyer:

can you post a pic showing the road and all?

Here ya go

Re: Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:56:53 EDT

medbuyer posted : can you post a pic showing the road and all?

Cable Wrapped Around Power Line (again)

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:21 EDT

Robotics posted : I have been having this problem since my internet has been installed. And pretty much nothing is being done about it.

The cable coming from the pole across the street continues to get wrapped around the power line coming to my property. It seems it doesn't take much of a good wind to do this.

Comcast comes out and says there is nothing they can do. The power company comes out and says its Comcast's problem, but they do get the cable unraveled, then leave. Comcast just lets it be all wrapped up and leaves.

I have had both companies out twice already.
Once again it is wrapped up around the power line, and has been this way for close to three months.

I am not to sure what to do next. I am getting tired of calling to say the least. Way I see it, it should have been corrected the first time any one was out here.
I am aware of the distances that is required between the cables, and that has been met.

The problem is the pole that is on my property is much lower then the pole across the street that all the cables originate from.
To me this seems to be the problem. It isn't your normal telephone pole, and is owned by the power company.

My biggest worry is calling Comcast again to see if they can do something, and then have them say they are going to have to remove it until the power company does something.

I am sure they are not going to do an underground run just for one customer, and the fact it crosses over a major road, and then parking lot.

And to be honest, I could live with it the way it is now all wrapped up, but the darn stuff is tied into my equipment. And if something were to happen, I'm sure no one would pay for my equipment, fire damage or what ever, since no one so far is taken the blame on anything.

So I ask....what would you all do?
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