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randomwalk10

join:2012-03-19
Houston, TX

Adding second keypad 6160 to Ademco/Honeywell V15P alarm

Hi all,

I am trying to add the new alpha numeric keypad 6160 as a second keypad to my alarm system (mainly to be used as reprogramming). My original keypad is 6150RF. I need this one because it has the receiver for some wireless devices (found out the hard way).

Here is what I did so far...and it didn't work. Please help me trouble shoot if possible.

Programmed *190 = 10 (enable 2nd keypad)
Set new keypad 6160 key address to 17
Powered everything down (unplugged terminal 1 wire & battery).
Hooked up original keypad to original location (6150RF)
Attached a new set of wires (4) to terminal 4,5,6,7 in same color wire as existing one and run those extra set of wire to the new keypad...hooked them up to correct terminals in the keypad. I verified this several times to make sure.
Powered everything back up.

Well here is where it went to hell...both key pads doesn't really respond. I can punch a few keys and it beeps then froze up...same thing for both keypads...both didn't say "ready" state or anything...basically it doesn't work.

If I unhook the second keypad and power cycle it with original keypad then it'll work. It'll work if I change the address of 2nd keypad to 16 then power cycle it and use it as sole keypad then it'll work (but will give me "Check 100 RF receiver" error since the 6160 doesn't have the RF receiver).

Anyone knows what wrong and how to solve this issue? Thank you so much. Here is the picture of my alarm box..



Caddyroger
Premium
join:2001-06-11
To the west

I not expert on this. I have the v20p set up. I believe you have to have a second power supply for the second key pad. I had to when I installed the second key pad.
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Caddy



Msradell
P.E.
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join:2008-12-25
Louisville, KY

reply to randomwalk10
Post your problem over here »www.diysecurityforum.com/index.php I'm sure somebody there will be able to help you!



fluffybunny

@teksavvy.com

reply to randomwalk10
the 6160 needs address 16. the 6150RF needs address 17. you have to program your wireless sensors to talk to address 17. read the install manual for the wireless sensors and reprogram them. you cannot do programming if your 6160 is not at address 16.


randomwalk10

join:2012-03-19
Houston, TX

reply to randomwalk10
You're absolutely right. Got it to work now. Thanks!!!


aroberti
Sarcastic? Me? Never
Premium
join:2000-12-21
Norwalk, CT

reply to randomwalk10
I never understood the point of placing the EOLRs in the can... Doesn't that defeat their purpose?



49528867
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join:2010-04-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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said by aroberti:

I never understood the point of placing the EOLRs in the can... Doesn't that defeat their purpose?

You betcha. It is also a U.L. listing violation.

The purpose is to make it simpleton and not to have to document on the door of the panel the locations of the ELOR’s, which technically and electrically should be at the end of the line.

Now that can be done within U.L. two ways, wire the premises with a looped two conductor cable and place the EOL at the far end of the loop and note the locations of the ELOR or wire the premises using a four conductor cable and fold back the EOL on the second two conductors and then place the EOLR within the alarm control panel.

Either way meets the U.L.listing.

Wayne
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fluffybunny

@teksavvy.com

reply to aroberti
its mainly to prevent the annoying whining prompts from the panel. EOLRs are just stupid. they should standardize on a 1.5K which is freely available instead of the 2k ohms they use which is hard to get and makes you put 2 1Ks in series. just build the eolrs into the motion sensors or whatever already and have a simple dip switch toggle.



49528867
Premium
join:2010-04-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
kudos:3

said by fluffybunny :

EOLRs are just stupid. they should standardize on a 1.5K which is freely available instead of the 2k ohms they use which is hard to get and makes you put 2 1Ks in series.

Not sure how you can claim that as 2K 5% resistors are readily available from any electronics supplier for as little as three and one half cents each in single quantities or $3 per hundred…

»www.newark.com/multicomp/mccfr0w···=Popular

Wayne
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