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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
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reply to grohgreg

Re: [Exede] $9.99/GB if you want more

said by grohgreg:

Those 25Mb/s ViaSat speeds by the way, are essentially allocated to enterprise accounts.

ViaSat has been fine tuning their system.

For instance on Youtube (or other video content sites):

A. In the beginning, there use to be "stall-outs" (buffering) sometimes.

B. Currently, there is an initial burst to get video running, and then the visual "slidebar" on Youtube's vid may go extremely fast with the complete video queued on your computer.

Hence, if traffic shapping program "sees" more bandwidth is available, it will deliver "full speed ahead" now.

An user's download speed, like on a video, can exceed their plan (5/12).

I have no idea if this is done on WB legacy, but this new traffic shaping for video is about getting content delivered as soon as possible.

Exede is not about a "metered or constant" speed, but its about getting the job done, at the fastest speed possible, for video.
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silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to BasilAR

Re: [Exede] $9.99/GB if you want more

One thing Exede and all other internet service providers should have to do is guarantee accuracy of their usage meters. As of right now there is no guarantee that their meters are accurate and many are proven to not be. Exede is no more guilty of this than any other provider and it is hard to make an accurate meter. But this should be a requirement if they choose to offer service with caps or if they utilize usage billing.

Perhaps regulators need to step in on this one. Electric and other utility meters are mandated to have a certain level of accuracy. If internet providers want to charge based on consumption of an unlimited resource, then they too should be mandated to have a certain level of accuracy.


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
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said by DrStrangLov:

I have no idea ...

On that you're correct. Perhaps you'd have dissembled less had I phrased it differently; "Plans advertising 25Mb/s and higher will likely be marketed as large business and Enterprise accounts". That said, expect such offerings to be marketed in the same manner as were WB business and enterprise plans; that is, by 3rd party vendors. Same satellite, different branding.

You're not doing readers any favors with this "traffic shaping" mumbo jumbo either. What's actually happening is little more than another approach to web acceleration; an in-network compression of content. This technique uses farms of Cisco blade servers to pre-process popular Web content into a compressed form. This means compressed content necessarily travels alongside uncompressed content over the network. The compressed content is decompressed on-the-fly once it is delivered to your Surfbeam2, and delivered to your computer as a plain vanilla bitstream. Sounds good on paper. But this particular approach brings with it the issue of synchronizing the decompressed content with the uncompressed content before rendering the aggregate in a browser. When this "sync" is weak or broken, 3rd party software - particularly those that use data compressed OUTSIDE the Exede network - can get confused. Had you understood this, we'd have been spared those uninformed ramblings about video compression that you foisted on us last week.

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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
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reply to silbaco
said by silbaco:

One thing Exede and all other internet service providers should have to do is guarantee accuracy of their usage meters.

Jan 25, 2011

Canada regulator OKs metered Internet billing
»www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/ ··· 20110125

Jan 31 2011

200GB to 25GB: Canada gets first, bitter dose of metered Internet
Usage Based Billing (UBB) has come to Canada, and indie ISPs are starting to …
»arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011 ··· billing/

03-Jul-2012

Time Warner Cable Expands Metered Billing Efforts
»Time Warner Cable Expands Metered Billing Efforts

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
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reply to grohgreg
said by grohgreg:

had I phrased it differently; "Plans advertising 25Mb/s and higher will likely be marketed as large business and Enterprise accounts".

I think that's a no brainer...but those with disposable income, B. Gates, Warren Buffet, etc., could acquire it.

You're not doing readers any favors with this "traffic shaping" mumbo jumbo either.

Traffic Cop decides how much and when...for those who don't have a Committed Access Rate (re: CIR) account.

This technique uses farms of Cisco blade servers to pre-process popular Web content into a compressed form. .....
Had you understood this, we'd have been spared those uninformed ramblings about video compression that you foisted on us last week.

Here you go Gregg, HTML5 is about using video that has been compressed, without "farms of Cisco blade servers."

The Things You Need to Know about HTML5 Video Formats
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H.264/MPEG-4 is a standard for video compression, and is currently one of the most commonly used formats for the recording, compression, and distribution of high definition video.
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»www.sothinkmedia.com/blog/the-th ··· formats/
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Spice300
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join:2006-01-10
reply to JSheridan

Re: [Exede] $9.99/GB if you want more

said by JSheridan:

Better yet, why don't you start a satellite ISP and show us how it's done. If it's as great as you say it should be we'll all sign up.

Announcing initial stock offering for BetterSat LLC. of 70 million shares. Only $10 / share with a minimum purchase of 10,000 shares. Get in on the ground floor because the sky is the limit.

With a capacity of 100 Tb/s and 200 spot beams our satellite will cover all of North America and Hawaii supporting 1.5 million customers. That's 8.3 MB/s/customer sustained with no usage limit, no FAP, no DAP, no nanny, no NMP. We will raise residential broadband Internet access via satellite to a new level of consumer satisfaction. Every Internet protocol that can tolerate a 500 to 600 ms latency will be supported. We will smother the competition. We will create our own continental installation network of internally trained and certified installers. Bad installs will be a thing of the past. Our customer service reps will be citizens of the country to which they sell service. They will be trained and our policies fair and honest.

We anticipate the cost of the service to be around $30 / month with an installation fee of $200 returning 8 billion gross over the 15 year minimum lifetime of the satellite

JSheridan

join:2006-07-03
USA
said by Spice300:

said by JSheridan:

Better yet, why don't you start a satellite ISP and show us how it's done. If it's as great as you say it should be we'll all sign up.

Announcing initial stock offering for BetterSat LLC. of 70 million shares. Only $10 / share with a minimum purchase of 10,000 shares. Get in on the ground floor because the sky is the limit.

With a capacity of 100 Tb/s and 200 spot beams our satellite will cover all of North America and Hawaii supporting 1.5 million customers. That's 8.3 MB/s/customer sustained with no usage limit, no FAP, no DAP, no nanny, no NMP. We will raise residential broadband Internet access via satellite to a new level of consumer satisfaction. Every Internet protocol that can tolerate a 500 to 600 ms latency will be supported. We will smother the competition. We will create our own continental installation network of internally trained and certified installers. Bad installs will be a thing of the past. Our customer service reps will be citizens of the country to which they sell service. They will be trained and our policies fair and honest.

We anticipate the cost of the service to be around $30 / month with an installation fee of $200 returning 8 billion gross over the 15 year minimum lifetime of the satellite

I'm in. Sign me up.
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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
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Re: [Exede] $9.99/GB if you want more

said by TexasRebel:

Fiber itself is not that expensive.

Where I live, I was told by a telco worker it cost around $15K/mile to lay it.

I have no idea if worker was right or wrong.
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