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Hall
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Re: What country are sharp window air conditioners made?

said by nonamesleft:

I thought sharp would of at least made them in thailand or something.

Curious why you think that. They're a for-profit company and if they can have their product(s) made in a location that maintains their quality levels (you can get high-quality from China - it's up to the company and the standards they demand) and has the lowest costs (i.e. labor), they're going to !


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said by Hall:

said by nonamesleft:

I thought sharp would of at least made them in thailand or something.

Curious why you think that. They're a for-profit company and if they can have their product(s) made in a location that maintains their quality levels (you can get high-quality from China - it's up to the company and the standards they demand) and has the lowest costs (i.e. labor), they're going to !

Well I have a sharp microwave that was made in thailand, I think it was manufactured in 2005.


Hall
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That could have been that one particular model or it could have been the last year they made them in Thailand. Or, that factory could have made the same (internal) microwave for Sharp, LG, Panasonic, and more and just put different faceplates on it.


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reply to nonamesleft
said by nonamesleft:

said by Hall:

said by nonamesleft:

I thought sharp would of at least made them in thailand or something.

Curious why you think that. They're a for-profit company and if they can have their product(s) made in a location that maintains their quality levels (you can get high-quality from China - it's up to the company and the standards they demand) and has the lowest costs (i.e. labor), they're going to !

Well I have a sharp microwave that was made in thailand, I think it was manufactured in 2005.

Same but mine is from 2000.. still works but I replaced it with a Panasonoc (made in china) I needed something bigger and the sensor cook is nice.

I wonder how much moaning and complaining people did about Japanese products back in the day?
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said by Subaru:

I wonder how much moaning and complaining people did about Japanese products back in the day?

This was something of a running joke in the original Back to the Future movie!

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said by scross:

said by Subaru:

I wonder how much moaning and complaining people did about Japanese products back in the day?

This was something of a running joke in the original Back to the Future movie!

Growing up in the 70's, our family considered Made in Japan to be a sign of crap. We wanted Made in the USA. China wasn't even on the horizon back then. We (my immediate family and my parents) still try to buy Made in the USA as much as possible. Sometimes it's not, but mostly we try.
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said by Badonkadonk:

Growing up in the 70's, our family considered Made in Japan to be a sign of crap. We wanted Made in the USA. China wasn't even on the horizon back then. We (my immediate family and my parents) still try to buy Made in the USA as much as possible. Sometimes it's not, but mostly we try.

I think it is worth pointing out, though MOST of the Chinese-made stuff is junk, US manufactured goods are not universally superior. Ever drive a Dodge?
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Badonkadonk
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I absolutely agree. And I won't buy US made if it's crap, just because it's made in this country.


CylonRed
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In the early to middle 70's they were crap. Even to the late 70's they were still pretty crappy. They then had the right cars for the time with the fuel issues and at the right price compared to their competition.
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said by CylonRed:

In the early to middle 70's they were crap. Even to the late 70's they were still pretty crappy. They then had the right cars for the time with the fuel issues and at the right price compared to their competition.

Man, those early Japanese cars were rust buckets. What a joke they were. Obviously the joke was on us, since they they've been laughing all the way to the bank for some time now.
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said by Badonkadonk:

said by CylonRed:

In the early to middle 70's they were crap. Even to the late 70's they were still pretty crappy. They then had the right cars for the time with the fuel issues and at the right price compared to their competition.

Man, those early Japanese cars were rust buckets. What a joke they were. Obviously the joke was on us, since they they've been laughing all the way to the bank for some time now.

Rust buckets and underpowered. What a joke.

I had one Toyota a 1990 pickup we inherited when my FIL died. That was the first and "LAST" Toyota I'll ever have in my driveway.


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So you let a very old Toyota model change your judgement?

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said by Jack_in_VA:

said by Badonkadonk:

said by CylonRed:

In the early to middle 70's they were crap. Even to the late 70's they were still pretty crappy. They then had the right cars for the time with the fuel issues and at the right price compared to their competition.

Man, those early Japanese cars were rust buckets. What a joke they were. Obviously the joke was on us, since they they've been laughing all the way to the bank for some time now.

Rust buckets and underpowered. What a joke.

I had one Toyota a 1990 pickup we inherited when my FIL died. That was the first and "LAST" Toyota I'll ever have in my driveway.

In 1987 I had a brand new Celica GTS. It was an awesome car. Occasional bad cars happen. Sometimes a maker will have an entire line that's bad for a particular model year. If I remember correctly, Japanese trucks really weren't very good until the mid to late 90s.
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reply to scross
said by scross:

said by Subaru:

I wonder how much moaning and complaining people did about Japanese products back in the day?

This was something of a running joke in the original Back to the Future movie!

Believe it or not I've never watched that movie yet lol


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said by Jack_in_VA:

said by Badonkadonk:

said by CylonRed:

In the early to middle 70's they were crap. Even to the late 70's they were still pretty crappy. They then had the right cars for the time with the fuel issues and at the right price compared to their competition.

Man, those early Japanese cars were rust buckets. What a joke they were. Obviously the joke was on us, since they they've been laughing all the way to the bank for some time now.

Rust buckets and underpowered. What a joke.

I had one Toyota a 1990 pickup we inherited when my FIL died. That was the first and "LAST" Toyota I'll ever have in my driveway.

I had a 1990 either Toyota or Nissan that I retired with 290K miles. It sure helped my little start up company.

itguy05

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reply to Subaru
said by Subaru:

So you let a very old Toyota model change your judgement?

Them and Honda have always been overrated, IMHO.


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well I can't say for both since I never owned both long term.


CylonRed
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Having owned Honda (several of them) I find they are not the least bit overrated. my '89 Civic hatchback is plainly the best car I ever owned.
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I don't think they're overrated either. My family has mostly owned Japanese cars and have been very happy. The few deviations into American car territory have not gone well.
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Jack_in_VA
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said by Subaru:

So you let a very old Toyota model change your judgement?

Very old? It was 2 years old when my FIL died. That's not old.

itguy05

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reply to CylonRed
said by CylonRed:

Having owned Honda (several of them) I find they are not the least bit overrated. my '89 Civic hatchback is plainly the best car I ever owned.

I could argue my '86 Mustang was the best car I ever owned too. Survived a new driver for well over 100k and still ran perfect when I got rid of it at 175k. And that was a crappy Ford 4-speed stick and a 2.3L 4 banger from the Pinto!

But if you look at it objectively, Honda and Toyota have plenty of issues and have throughout their history. It's just people wanted to look through them because they were "superior". I've read reviews where people love their Odysseys despite being on their 3rd-4th transmission at around 100-120k. Same with Acuras and other V6 Hondas. Really? That's "quality"?

Same as some Toyota owners with sludging/sludged engines.

If you're constantly told something is superior you will most likely gloss over the issues as it's superior and if it's doing it, how much worse would the others be?

I'd say a car that's on it's 3rd transmission in 120k is a POS. Even my wife's 03 Escape with the "famous" C4DE shifts perfect at 110k.

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n=1 isn't really a good measure. Your anecdotal evidence isn't enough to really change the general truth, no matter how vehemently you protest.

As it's been reported quite a bit, all the automakers have raised their quality. But the fact remains, historically, the Japanese built better automobiles, which is the reason for their reputation.

No doubt you'll attempt to poo-poo the chart away, but I think it stands on its own, given the thousands of survey responses that Consumer Reports gets.
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said by Badonkadonk:

n=1 isn't really a good measure. Your anecdotal evidence isn't enough to really change the general truth, no matter how vehemently you protest.

As it's been reported quite a bit, all the automakers have raised their quality. But the fact remains, historically, the Japanese built better automobiles, which is the reason for their reputation.

No doubt you'll attempt to poo-poo the chart away, but I think it stands on its own, given the thousands of survey responses that Consumer Reports gets.

Yea, my son-in-law is a service manager for a large Lexus dealer. Go ahead tell me how superior Japanese cars are. Especially the High Dollar Japanese Cars.

He drives a Jeep and my daughter a Honda built in Ohio.

If you believe the biased Consumer Reports then you have a problem with accuracy.

itguy05

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said by Badonkadonk:

No doubt you'll attempt to poo-poo the chart away, but I think it stands on its own, given the thousands of survey responses that Consumer Reports gets.

So I take it that chart came from CR then? I won't even begin to point out the flaws in their methodology and how it's a very small sample of the overall population that is pretty much self-selected and most likely a certain segment of the population (like Mac users are supposed to only be rich). Those arguments are all overt the web.

And if I bought a car that a "trusted" resource said was the best, I'd not really want to report any issues as after all, the best doesn't have issues....

Nor will I discuss how CR got caught red handed giving Honda and Toyota "passes" by recommending new models without any reliability data to back it up.

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Both of you guys need to learn how to read and take your blinders off. These are surveys filled out by consumers. It has nothing to do with CR's testing bias and it has nothing to do with model recommendations.

Or is it your position that American cars haven't gotten better? Given your responses, that's as equally likely to be true as saying that the Japanese didn't have better cars a decade ago.

You can't have it both ways.
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said by Badonkadonk:

Both of you guys need to learn how to read and take your blinders off. These are surveys filled out by consumers. It has nothing to do with CR's testing bias and it has nothing to do with model recommendations.

Or is it your position that American cars haven't gotten better? Given your responses, that's as equally likely to be true as saying that the Japanese didn't have better cars a decade ago.

You can't have it both ways.

I get my information human first hand not from a biased magazine that gets under the table money to get better results. Just how do you think CR is able to operate their high dollar enterprise? Not from subscription money.

Badonkadonk
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lol. Okay. Just make sure you change the tinfoil out every so often. You can get mold in there.


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Hall
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said by itguy05:

So I take it that chart came from CR then? I won't even begin to point out the flaws in their methodology...

What source do you use for reliability ratings ?


CylonRed
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quote:
I could argue my '86 Mustang was the best car I ever owned too.
And that would be a valid argument to something that is subjective to each person. How many Honda's have you owned personally?
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