said by Neoprimal:
Hey all, I'd just like a bit of advice on this. I have a few requirements, well - 1 or 2 main ones really.
[Updated to be easier to read]:
My question to the community is, do any of you own a router with a guest network that is detailed or thorough? I'm looking for something with similar functionality to opendns.com.
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Here's the background.
I have some neighbors that recently moved in and requested access to my Wifi. It's a couple of them in a single apartment and they don't know how long they'll be there and don't want to pay the big bills for Comcast or deal with Clear (since they have to buy the device). They initially asked this about a month ago.
Yesterday one of them comes to me and asks if they can continue using it. They are still month to month and aren't sure when they'll be leaving. He asked if he could give me $20 to keep giving him access...(mind you, I never turned the access off, he approached me on his own).
I have never owned a router with guest access. I thought that there'd be independent logs and a way to block traffic or types of sites and such but there's none of that in what I got. I got the EA3500 by Cisco/Linksys. It is super basic, to say the least. I can't even change the guest network name, just the password.
Getting the router was super rushed. I got it the very evening he asked me. I'm aware there are many alternatives, but if I'm going to return this one, I want to make sure the next one has at least a few of the features I need. I haven't been able to source any reviews or youtube videos showcasing detailed guest network functionality....which leads me to ask here.
The most practical and inexpensive way to solve this problem is to have two routers - one for your own personal use and the other for guest use - connected to the same ADSL or Cable modem.
This solution is predicated on an ISP option - you will have to check with your ISP as to whether or not they can provide this.
Concept is as follows:
1. Does your ISP permit multiple external IP addresses on your modem? Some ISPs permit two external addresses.
What the above means is you can connect two routers to that modem and each router gets its own external IP. As a result, the two routers then operate with two separate external independent
connections to the internet (which is what they are in logical terms as far as the routers are concerned).
The advantage to this is the two routers are utterly separate - as far as settings are concerned - no differently than if you were setting up the second router on a different account on an ADSL or Cable modem somewhere down the street.
All that changes in the two-IP scenario - compared to two separate accounts - is the bandwidth for the two routers on the same ADSL or Cable modem is limited to the maximum that particular ADSL or Cable modem can supply - as per the modem's operating profile which is set up when the modem connects to your ISP.
2, You then reuse your old existing router as router2 and your new router as router1. Each router can be configured independently with its own router-assigned DNS as you desire.
Note: Because the two routers are utterly separate, there will be no shared access between the two LANs. Thus, no printer sharing, media sharing, etc.
3. You require a simple network switch, which goes between your ADSL or Cable Modem and the Routers, which splits the ethernet cable connected to the Modem into the two cables connected to the WAN input on each of the two routers.
Obtaining the required switch:
1. Because the throughput of the switch in this situation is limited to the maximum bandwidth the ADSL or Cable modem can accommodate (this switch handles only
the network traffic to the Internet - no LAN traffic goes through this device) - the switch does not have to be rated for GigE if your ISP profile for your ADSL or Cable modem is specified as less than 100Mb/s. (This is the case for all but the most expensive ISP connections.)
2. A simple 4-port 10/100 Ethernet Switch is all you require to obtain the abovementioned functionality. These are inexpensive and commonly available on Craiglist or Amazon or Ebay for under $15. The ASUS GX1005B is an example of what you are looking for.
1. Once you have the switch and the two routers connected through the switch to the ADSL or Cable modem - you set up each router just as if it was the only router connected to the modem. Each router gets its own external IP - you confirm this in the status report for each router as you perform the setup for that particular router.
2. Set up router1 (use whichever of the two routers you wish) as your own "Main" personal router with your own personal SSID and password. This SSID and password is for your own personal use - and is not shared with the people staying with you.
3. Set up router2 as your "Guest" router. Set the router itself to use whatever DNS you specify. Thus, your "Guest" router has the desired security characteristics - and your "Main" router has the freedom-of-access you expect for your own use.
4. Set up your "Guest" router to have a separate SSID and password - which are different from those used for your "Main" router. Only the wireless connection SSID and password for the "Guest" router is shared with the people staying with you.
1. The scenario suggested above only works when your ISP permits your modem to obtain two independent IP addresses.
2. In most cases, the above is an exception - and you will have to contact your ISP to have your modem profile updated to permit the modem to grant two external IP addresses.
3. If you contact your ISP and the representative you are talking to goes "huh?" - you need to talk with someone more knowledgeable. Request escalation ("I need to talk with your supervisor") until you get hold of someone competent to discuss your situation.
4. If your ISP does not offer the desired option - check to see if a local competitor has the option you desire. If so, tell your current ISP their intransigence is a dealbreaker - and they are going to lose your business if they don't get off the stick and provide what you require. Threatening the ISP's wallet is always
the most-effective way of obtaining what you want.
5. The particular procedure required to grant a separate IP to each of your two routers varies according to your ISP. Ensure you get the necessary information on how to set up your ADSL or Cable modem (if required) to ensure you get a separate external IP address for each of your two routers.
Hope this helps.