Topic 'Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?' in forum 'Wireless Users Chat' - dslreports.com

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:27:44 EDT

Mr Matt posted : I would recommend purchasing a router that can perform a firmware update without first downloading the firmware to a PC and then uploading it to the router. My Netgear WNDR3400 can automatically download and install a firmware update without using a PC.

On the other hand, be aware that some firmware updates will change router settings making it difficult or impossible to get back in without resetting the router to the default state. In one case I updated the firmware on a Cradlepoint PHS300 router automatically and could no longer access it. Since the PHS300 does not have an Ethernet connection I suffered severe heartburn trying to access the router. It turns out that during the firmware update the WPS security function was reset to none. When I tried to access the device using the original configuration for the SSID of the router through the connect to a network window on the PC, I was unsuccessful. I had to delete the existing configuration for the SSID in the PC and recreate it without a WPS password to access the PHS300. It would have been easier to access the router via a wired connection if there was one. Also consider how you will access an all in one machine to scan or print without using a PC.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Fri, 13 Jul 2012 01:31:38 EDT

Jillxz posted : Hey , No way is my desktop going bye bye.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:09:49 EDT

wayjac posted :

said by slajoh01:

If one can use WiFi within their home WiFi network without using a PC or a notebook, then how can I configure the router itself if it does not allow me to configure it over a WLAN just by typing the 192.168.1.1 from the phone's browser?

Take the router to a location where you can use a computer to reconfigure the router

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:03:14 EDT

jcremin posted :

said by slajoh01:

This type of router is more on a higher-end scale as far as security goes. This is more for a small business type office which needs more secure routers to protect the router itself from attacks as well the PCs connected to it....

And the businesses will typically have hardwired PC's so it wouldn't normally be a problem for a place like that. I'm sure if you had used a normal consume grade router you would have been fine configuring it over the wireless connection.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:00:47 EDT

slajoh01 posted : This type of router is more on a higher-end scale as far as security goes. This is more for a small business type office which needs more secure routers to protect the router itself from attacks as well the PCs connected to it....

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:42:11 EDT

jcremin posted :

said by slajoh01:

But if Management through WLAN is disabled by default in most routers, then no one can accomplish this task unless they take the router to a family or friend's house and configure the router there.

As iansltx said, it's typically not disabled by default. In fact, out of dozens of different brands of routers I've used, I've never come across one that had it disabled out of the box. You just got that "one in a million" chance of not having a router you could configure without plugging in to it.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:35:46 EDT

iansltx posted : Right. But management over WLAN is enabled on most routers.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:07:40 EDT

slajoh01 posted : Thats what I needed. Manangemanet via WLAN.

But this is disabled by default. If it is disabled by default and one has no PC nor a notebook or no Ipad, then configuring the router from a Smartphone is impossible unless the routers have it enabled by default which I doubt.

My scenario is this:

Would it be really possible to use the WiFi Home Internet without a desktop PC, notebook, or an Ipad and ONLY using my Android Smartphone to connect?
But if Management through WLAN is disabled by default in most routers, then no one can accomplish this task unless they take the router to a family or friend's house and configure the router there.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:35:11 EDT

wayjac posted :

said by slajoh01:

Is there anything I missed under the settings in regards to enabling to configure my router over WLAN from the phone"s browser?

Here some info from the user guide
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Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 15:16:48 EDT

slajoh01 posted : Well, this one is kind of bit on the high-end side as far as security the network.
»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9···dex.html

What area of the settings should I look at?

I know I have Remote WAN Administration management disabled for security reasons.

Is there anything I missed under the settings in regards to enabling to configure my router over WLAN from the phone"s browser?

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:21:45 EDT

iansltx posted : As jcremin said, the VAST majority of wireless routers can be configured over wireless. I actually have never owned a router (out of the dozen or so that I've used) that disabled, by default, configuration over wireless. Never come across a home router anywhere where I've done computer repairs (so, another half-dozen router models at least) that had that restriction, either.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:57:09 EDT

jcremin posted :

said by slajoh01:

If one can indeed use a smartphone with a Wifi network without using a notebook or a desktop PC, then how can I configure my router since typing the router address of 192.168.1.1 into my phones browser, and it said ACCESS DENIED, CONFIGURATION IS NOT ALLOWED OVER WLAN...or something like that.

If one can use WiFi within their home WiFi network without using a PC or a notebook, then how can I configure the router itself if it does not allow me to configure it over a WLAN just by typing the 192.168.1.1 from the phone's browser?

What brand of router do you have? Almost all will allow configuration over the wireless, but the one you have must not. If that's the case, you'll need to either borrow a computer you can plug into it to configure it, or you'll have to bring the router to someone who can do it for you.

Once you are through the initial configuration, you should be able to use it without any problems.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:48:51 EDT

slajoh01 posted : If one can indeed use a smartphone with a Wifi network without using a notebook or a desktop PC, then how can I configure my router since typing the router address of 192.168.1.1 into my phones browser, and it said ACCESS DENIED, CONFIGURATION IS NOT ALLOWED OVER WLAN...or something like that.

If one can use WiFi within their home WiFi network without using a PC or a notebook, then how can I configure the router itself if it does not allow me to configure it over a WLAN just by typing the 192.168.1.1 from the phone's browser?

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:59:35 EDT

tiger72 posted :

said by slajoh01:

I still think that home desktop PCs are going BYE BYE....Except for businesses and for developers.

aka those of us who actually use the internet for productive work, and those of us who make money off of consumers.

Thanks!
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Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:29:35 EDT

slajoh01 posted : I still think that home desktop PCs are going BYE BYE....Except for businesses and for developers.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:30:09 EDT

WHT posted :

said by slajoh01:

Home desktop PCs are a down hill trend.

For the masses that think Facebook is the Internet, yes...but not for the professional power users.

Re: Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:50:15 EDT

Jim_in_VA posted : That's all you need, along with the ISP
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Using Wireless Internet without a PC?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 01:17:15 EDT

slajoh01 posted : What would be needed in order for me to use a wireless connection to the internet ONLY using for example an IPAD or a Smartphone WITHOUT a notebook or a desktop PC?

Would I only need a modem and a wireless router and thats all?

Home desktop PCs are a down hill trend.