donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 6:55 am
[Rant] My A/C has diedWhile I was away over the long weekend. I got home last night to find the house boiling. The outside unit was not working and I could see and oily substance on it.
The thing is only 8 years old and hopefully repairable. The question is how quickly. I will be calling this morning. |
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DKSDamn Kidney Stones
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said by donoreo:While I was away over the long weekend. I got home last night to find the house boiling. The outside unit was not working and I could see and oily substance on it.
The thing is only 8 years old and hopefully repairable. The question is how quickly. I will be calling this morning. Possibly a blown start capacitor. The oily fluid is from the capacitor. The cost for repair is around $200, including labour ($100 for the part and $100 for labour or whatever the minimum charge is). Other than being messy, it's a common thing to go and a quick replacement, unless you have an odd capacitor type that has to be ordered. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 7:34 am
said by DKS:said by donoreo:While I was away over the long weekend. I got home last night to find the house boiling. The outside unit was not working and I could see and oily substance on it.
The thing is only 8 years old and hopefully repairable. The question is how quickly. I will be calling this morning. Possibly a blown start capacitor. The oily fluid is from the capacitor. The cost for repair is around $200, including labour ($100 for the part and $100 for labour or whatever the minimum charge is). Other than being messy, it's a common thing to go and a quick replacement, unless you have an odd capacitor type that has to be ordered. That is possibly good news. Just a matter of getting someone here. |
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HaroldReyes
Anon
2012-Jul-3 8:08 am
You can eaily fix urself if u know a thing or 2 about electrics. Part is easily 30-50 and u can save laobour if u do it urself
p.s. Forza Espagna |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
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WAAAAH,I don't have A/C and live without it.... |
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said by elwoodblues:WAAAAH,I don't have A/C and live without it.... You must be crazy! |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
said by Mike2009:said by elwoodblues:WAAAAH,I don't have A/C and live without it.... You must be crazy! I am, I just refuse to pay the Electrical tax on one, I see my neighbours electrical bill in the $200 range and cringe. |
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peterboro (banned)Avatars are for posers join:2006-11-03 Peterborough, ON |
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My central air died 4 years ago. My brother is a licenced AC guy with his own business and said he can get me a practically new unit for free.
I decided to offset the carbon footprint from my V8 cars and make Wolfie happy by not fixing it. Joking.
Although I could easily pay the hydro I decided if my ancestors could live without it so can I. Certain family members don't share my enthusiasm for this perspective though. |
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said by elwoodblues:said by Mike2009:said by elwoodblues:WAAAAH,I don't have A/C and live without it.... You must be crazy! I am, I just refuse to pay the Electrical tax on one, I see my neighbours electrical bill in the $200 range and cringe. When it's really hot I pay around $250-$280 for 2 months. It's well worth it as the second floor bedrooms become unbearable without it. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 9:04 am
Anyone know some good AC guys in Toronto? The guys my father in law used cannot make it before Friday afternoon. That means if they have to wait for a part....over the weekend.
I cannot stand the heat, never could. I barely slept last night with the windows open and a fan blowing directly on me. |
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donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 9:13 am
I found one that can do tomorrow morning. They said the oil could be the sign of a major leak as well. I think capacitor makes sense since the fan will not start. It makes sense with a leak the fan would still go, but it would just not cool. |
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donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 9:35 am
Good news, they must have had a quick fix, they said they can make it to my place today. |
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FaxCap join:2002-05-25 Surrey, BC |
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said by donoreo:They said the oil could be the sign of a major leak as well. Oil in an A/C unit??? I thought they used one of the new Freon replacements?? FaxCap |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 9:48 am
said by FaxCap:said by donoreo:They said the oil could be the sign of a major leak as well. Oil in an A/C unit??? I thought they used one of the new Freon replacements?? FaxCap The unit is only 8 years old, so it should not have freon in it. |
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2012-Jul-3 9:51 am
said by donoreo:said by FaxCap:said by donoreo:They said the oil could be the sign of a major leak as well. Oil in an A/C unit??? I thought they used one of the new Freon replacements?? FaxCap The unit is only 8 years old, so it should not have freon in it. That's why I said "Freon replacements". FaxCap |
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LazMan Premium Member join:2003-03-26 Beverly Hills, CA |
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There will also be some oil in the loop and compressor as well - without knowing where the oil came from, impossible to say if it's repairable, worth repairing, or what the cost will be...
I know a good mechanical guy out of Bolton, little out of your area - but he does work for me all over the city, if you want the name and #, send me a PM... No idea how busy he is this week, or when he could get there... |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 10:57 am
"He's dead, Jim"
The compressor is gone. They said that they have replaced 4 of these same ones in my neighbourhood themselves.
They can install a KeepRite unit on Thursday for a little over $3000.
I am doing research on it. 10 Year parts warranty, 10 year compressor warranty 1 year replacement warranty and they give 1 year on labour. |
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zacron
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2012-Jul-3 10:59 am
I don't beleive that... Check the capcitor, what exactly died? How long did it run with the damage done?
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StyvasWho are we? Forge FC! Premium Member join:2004-09-15 Hamilton, ON |
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said by donoreo:"He's dead, Jim"
The compressor is gone. They said that they have replaced 4 of these same ones in my neighbourhood themselves.
They can install a KeepRite unit on Thursday for a little over $3000.
I am doing research on it. 10 Year parts warranty, 10 year compressor warranty 1 year replacement warranty and they give 1 year on labour. We had a 2-ton, 16 SEER KeepRite installed on Thursday for $2,200. 10 year warranty on parts, 10 years on compressor, and 1 year on labour. So far it's working well through this heat wave. As I understand it, if you are replacing an existing unit with a more efficient unit, you're eligible for $400 back from the Province. |
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LazMan Premium Member join:2003-03-26 Beverly Hills, CA |
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Keeprite's common enough, pretty basic unit, but nothing wrong with them, as far as I'm aware.
I had a 1.5t American Standard (which is the same as Trane - produced at the same factory) installed last year for about 2k, all in, but it was new old stock - 13 seer.
3k seem about right, maybe even a shade low, based on quotes I've been getting for my new place... |
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Wolfie00My dog is an elitist Premium Member join:2005-03-12 |
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said by donoreo:"He's dead, Jim"
The compressor is gone. Hmm.. that's probably the case, I obviously have no reason to second-guess their diagnosis. But ironically, I was going to post earlier to be careful about shady repair types. I had a few of those crooks around in the old house when it still had the old water-cooled unit which failed more or less like clockwork every year! Finally got rid of it and got a nice Carrier unit that worked great all the rest of the time I was there. But one thing I learned is to be careful who you use for repair services. Unfortunately I'm damned if I know how you can really confirm that it's the compressor. I probably shouldn't be putting paranoid ideas into your head but somehow A/C repair types in my experience have always been the worst. If anything happened to mine I would probably want to use the original installer or at least a trusted authorized service outfit. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
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said by Styvas:said by donoreo:"He's dead, Jim"
The compressor is gone. They said that they have replaced 4 of these same ones in my neighbourhood themselves.
They can install a KeepRite unit on Thursday for a little over $3000.
I am doing research on it. 10 Year parts warranty, 10 year compressor warranty 1 year replacement warranty and they give 1 year on labour. We had a 2-ton, 16 SEER KeepRite installed on Thursday for $2,200. 10 year warranty on parts, 10 years on compressor, and 1 year on labour. So far it's working well through this heat wave. As I understand it, if you are replacing an existing unit with a more efficient unit, you're eligible for $400 back from the Province. That is a better price than he is giving me for a SEER 13. Damn, I hate researching crap like this. Does that installer do Toronto? PM me is you want. |
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StyvasWho are we? Forge FC! Premium Member join:2004-09-15 Hamilton, ON |
Styvas
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2012-Jul-3 11:16 am
PM sent. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
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DKSDamn Kidney Stones
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said by donoreo:"He's dead, Jim"
The compressor is gone. They said that they have replaced 4 of these same ones in my neighbourhood themselves.
They can install a KeepRite unit on Thursday for a little over $3000.
I am doing research on it. 10 Year parts warranty, 10 year compressor warranty 1 year replacement warranty and they give 1 year on labour. Happens. The signs are there, to be sure. I have a KeepRite. Good middle of the road brand. |
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I have a ten year old Keeprite and it's been very efficient and reliable. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
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Airmakers gave me a good price on a higher model, still a Keeprite, and can install tomorrow morning. They are going to drop by this afternoon for a site check. I checked them on Homestars and they got a 9.9 review. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
Have them take Dalton's rebate off the top. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
donoreo
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2012-Jul-3 12:52 pm
said by elwoodblues:Have them take Dalton's rebate off the top. We are going to discuss cash prices. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
said by donoreo:said by elwoodblues:Have them take Dalton's rebate off the top. We are going to discuss cash prices. Cash is always good, as long as there's still a warranty. |
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