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But isn't that what a free market is about? I come out with a better product than you and make more money? Since when do the courts get to decide what corporation succeeds and which doesn't?

Apple's claim is not that Samsung came out with a "better" product... it's that Samsung illegally came out with the _same_ product. You can't copy someone else's design and sell it as your own. It amounts to stealing someone's ideas and that would break the free market.

I'm not saying I agree with Apple or these patent wars.

I always keep in mind Kleenex and Asprin which were brand names but the companies that owned them never enforced their use. If you don't enforce your right to a brand or patent, you will most likely loose that ability.

What I don't really agree with is the judges decision to stop sales and have Apple put up $96 million in return. Even if Samsung wins, in some way they are not going to see that $96 million and/or will at least need to spend a boat load of legal expense to get at it. What should happen is the judge should rule that 10% (or whatever) of the product is Apple's so Apple gets 10% of the revenue. Apple's claim is that somehow the _sale_ alone of the product hurts Apple's over-all market.

No.. Samsung came out with a superior product.. Apple is now playing catchup and using the courts to gain an unfair advantage(and time)..

lol. Samsung came out with a superior product. You're funny.

Larger Super AMOLED screen. 4.65"(1280x800) verses 4s 3.5" LED backlit (960x640).
User/field replaceable(10-20 seconds) batteries.
USB connectivity to PC/MAC. (real handy for tethering/transfering data to/from laptop/pc/mac/linux box.)

LTE or HSDPA+ 21 capability.. (really fast).
iphone 4s CDMA version has no LTE, and HSDPA+ limited to 14.4 Mbps.

Built upon GPL open source OS (linux), can be rooted, and user takes over near total control.

Much cheaper to purchase and operate.
($350 unlocked/retail, $30/mo for 5GB of 4G+100minutes of voice, UL text).

Heck, If hadn't purchased another Samsung phone 5 months back, I would have purchased this one.. (never even considered an Iphone.)

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Here is an undisputed fact....

The iPhone and Android phones are two different products. As such, it's like saying an apple is better for everyone over an orange. It's pointless.

What you can certainly argue is certain aspects of the phone (iPhones all being the same so they are better supported, Android phone having a UI that is much more configurable, etc.). But this all leads back to.... to each their own. What works for one person might not work for another.

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Bayer lost Aspirin because of a war treaty, and apple's not protecting a brand or a trademark. Apple is asserting a design and software patent infringement.

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These posts intrigue me.

For some reason many Apple fans feel the need to lay claim to the most superior product in order to justify their purchase of it. Why is it so scary to just stand up and say I like my Apple product period. It doesn't matter if it's the best/fastest/shiniest/most popular etc..

Once you can do that you'll have a lot more credibility.

In reality land android has produced overall better phones for around 2-3 years now. Will it always be that way? Probably not.
Arguably today android tablets are overall better than ipads, at least as they relate to the average consumer an their typical use of tablets. Will it always be this way? Probably not. Some argue that the "retina" display of the ipad 3 put it back on top, they may or may not be right, but the point is that Apple (or android) devices do not have to be superior to justify you owning them.

In the case of Apple's suits, it is very clear that even if you don't think the android devices are better, Apple does.
I don't think any reasonably minded individual could hold a 3gs and a nexus one and not come to the conclusion that Steve Jobs came to that the nexus one overall was a better device.
It was the same with the ipad2 and the galaxy tab 10.1. Samsung had released a faster, nicer, better screen, thinner and less expensive etc... device.

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You conflated the upgrade from an iphone 4 class device to a 4s class device as an incorrect confirmation of platform superiority.

Imagine if I had a first gen iphone and got a new htc one X and then claimed that android is obviously better than ios. Because jumping from the first iphone to the one x I could definitely say android is "More integrated, works better, and just seems better thought out."

We are just now finding out from Apple themselves that the iphone 4 was so crummy that it can never handle turn by turn navigation, voice assistance and other things, things that your droid X did right out of the box on day 1 . Makes me a little nervous that the 4s may not be as good of a device as Apple wants you to think it is today.

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Yes, i have looked at most of them. This is the typical patent bully that we saw out (and still see some of) of Microsoft a decade ago that Apple fans always hammered Microsoft as being evil for doing.

These patent disputes are less about real "idea stealing" and more about market control, which is to say that these companies build up cold war style nukes of patent armaments in an attempt to keep competitors from surpassing them in the market. These companies almost never unleash their war chest (show their hand) unless they clearly see the competitor with a better product.

I can hand an ipad2 and a Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 to 100 people and 100 people will correctly identify which one is from apple. If I covered the back and then handed it to them with the screen on none of them would say they are the same product, and most of them would probably not even say they were from the same company.

It must take quite a bit of effort to not accept a company you adore so much as a bad actor.

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My workflow:

DSLR -> ipad -> Sugarsync (magic briefcase) -> PC -> Adobe LR

Sugarsync rocks. I can bridge almost any OS on it. I also have it on my iphone which photos automatically save in the cloud.

With this method, I can use any technology that suits me, not just what Apple pushes.

Apple TV is lame outside of Apple tech. I use xbox or roku to do the same.

The integration is there, because you need to buy 100% Apple, so if that is your MO then I can agree.

I'm ready to throw my iphone out the door because it doesn't play well w/ exchange 2008 or my google calendar/contacts. That's two different technologies it fails on. My old cranky droid did those 100% without issue.

Just sayin'.. If you are not 100% Apple, prepare for PAIN.

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Not quite sure where Itunes comes into this since Android doesn't need or use Itunes that I am aware ...

Sorry that you can't type on the KB, that's not the KB fault. I type just fine on mine.

The rest of your Apple crap, meh. I don't really care.