 CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | reply to tcope
Re: Appeal said by tcope:Apple's claim is not that Samsung came out with a "better" product... it's that Samsung illegally came out with the _same_ product. You can't copy someone else's design and sell it as your own. It amounts to stealing someone's ideas and that would break the free market.
Except....they didn't.... |
|
tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | said by Cheese:Except....they didn't....
...and to think of all the money Samsung is wasting on experienced attorney's when they could have just used this defense.
Apple: They stole our ideas
Samsung: No we didn't.
Judge: Case dismissed!
Have you looked into Apples claims and their arguments as presented to the court? Have you reviewed all of Apple's and Samsung's patents? Have you reviewed the laws that apply to the case? |
|
| Yes, i have looked at most of them. This is the typical patent bully that we saw out (and still see some of) of Microsoft a decade ago that Apple fans always hammered Microsoft as being evil for doing.
These patent disputes are less about real "idea stealing" and more about market control, which is to say that these companies build up cold war style nukes of patent armaments in an attempt to keep competitors from surpassing them in the market. These companies almost never unleash their war chest (show their hand) unless they clearly see the competitor with a better product.
I can hand an ipad2 and a Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 to 100 people and 100 people will correctly identify which one is from apple. If I covered the back and then handed it to them with the screen on none of them would say they are the same product, and most of them would probably not even say they were from the same company.
It must take quite a bit of effort to not accept a company you adore so much as a bad actor. |
|
 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to tcope
This is what Apple does, and Fanbois defend.
Apple will see a promising idea or invention and then file patents on it. Prior art, who cares. They didn't invent it, who cares.
Then, once the bogus patent is granted, that is their exact claim "Everyone is illegally copying us/stealing our design!"
Astounding hypocrisy. If their products are "So clearly Superior" then fine, compete in the market and win. Nope, not Apple.
quote:
You can't copy someone else's design and sell it as your own. It amounts to stealing someone's ideas and that would break the free market.
Someone should tell that to Apple.
Hopefully the Judge, as he strikes down patents.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
|
|
tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | said by KrK:Apple will see a promising idea or invention and then file patents on it. Prior art, who cares. They didn't invent it, who cares. Give one example of this on the iPhone. |
|
 GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | Slide down notification bar.
Clearly copying Android. |
|
|
|
CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | said by Gbcue:Slide down notification bar.
Clearly copying Android.
Aren't they adding turn by turn navigation in iOS6? Something android has done for a few years. |
|
tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | reply to Gbcue
said by Gbcue:Slide down notification bar.
Clearly copying Android. Can you point me to the Apple _patent_ for that? |
|
tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | reply to Cheese
said by Cheese:Aren't they adding turn by turn navigation in iOS6? Something android has done for a few years.
They are adding their own maps and nav. They have never had their own, only used Google Maps. However, turn by turn nav is nothing new. Tom Tom and Garmin used it years before Android. |
|
CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | No kidding!! Not the point. They are adding things that have been around for YEARS.....
Wonder how long it takes before they sue google claiming they stole maps and navigation from them..... |
|
tcopePremium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | said by Cheese:No kidding!! Not the point. They are adding things that have been around for YEARS..... Actually that _is_ the point... go back and read the posts. This entire thread is about enforcing patents... not just using what someone else has used. Apple is suing over rights to patents. Again, I'm not standing up for what Apple is doing. Also, it appears they are losing these battles. They have just about lost the entire "slide to unlock" patent battle with judges ruling that several patents are illegal. Problem is... Apple has all of it's money to pay lawyers to file suits and it appears it's going to take them a long time before they realize it's not the best move. |
|
CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | said by tcope:said by Cheese:No kidding!! Not the point. They are adding things that have been around for YEARS..... Actually that _is_ the point... go back and read the posts. This entire thread is about enforcing patents... not just using what someone else has used. Apple is suing over rights to patents. Again, I'm not standing up for what Apple is doing. Also, it appears they are losing these battles. They have just about lost the entire "slide to unlock" patent battle with judges ruling that several patents are illegal. Problem is... Apple has all of it's money to pay lawyers to file suits and it appears it's going to take them a long time before they realize it's not the best move. That _is_ the point, Apple is _suing_ people over things that have been around for _years_.....
And looks like you are trying to defend them to me... |
|
KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to tcope
Slide-to-Unlock.
Prior art, obviousness. |
|
