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Re: 45MB Internet on 55MB Bonded Profile? said by dbeatson:It was also mentioned that AT&T has set an internal goal to be able to launch a 100MB service in 2 years to compete with Cable, this is possible with improvements with bonded pairs and vectoring, but like any goal this could get delayed or just never happen with the current infrastructure, but it does appear to be something they are thinking about and working on in the labs.
Want to know how AT&T can compete with cable? DROP THE FUCKING BANDWIDTH CAPS.
Even if AT&T offered 10 Mbps that would still be an improvement over Comcrap with their 100 Mbps speed tier that has a 250 GB bandwidth cap. I'd take uncapped AT&T over capped cable any day, but apparently the numbskulls over at AT&T are too thick to get that. |
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| Its 100 with a currently unnamed cap. Caps for lower tiers are now 300. Keep with the times. |
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Agreed! My only other option here is Charter but the thing that's kept me with U-verse is the lack of caps. 24/3 uncapped beats gigabit with caps IMO... At least I can actually use my connectioin! If AT&T starts enforcing the caps I'll probably be getting Charter as even though they're both capped Charter has faster speeds and bigger than 250GB caps... |
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said by maartena:Also, I am pretty sure the max rate doesn't say anything about stability.... I have heard some people here say that even though the number may be that high, the error correction needed on the distance you are at might not make it possible to get even close to that. Too low of a max rate for the chosen profile will guarantee that the line will be unstable. So the max rate definitely says something about the line stability. Just not everything.
Error correction overhead (in terms of the raw bandwidth) is constant for AT&T's VDSL scheme, regardless of distance. Obviously on noisy lines, the error correction is more active, but no additional bandwidth is used. |
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | reply to 09129800
said by 09129800:said by dbeatson:It was also mentioned that AT&T has set an internal goal to be able to launch a 100MB service in 2 years to compete with Cable, this is possible with improvements with bonded pairs and vectoring, but like any goal this could get delayed or just never happen with the current infrastructure, but it does appear to be something they are thinking about and working on in the labs.
Want to know how AT&T can compete with cable? DROP THE FUCKING BANDWIDTH CAPS. Even if AT&T offered 10 Mbps that would still be an improvement over Comcrap with their 100 Mbps speed tier that has a 250 GB bandwidth cap. I'd take uncapped AT&T over capped cable any day, but apparently the numbskulls over at AT&T are too thick to get that. They are not as dumb as you think they are, AT&T's cap meters are 'broken' for a reason. AT&T a company with the largest and fastest network in the universe and with super fast internet plans for the next two decades can't get a dumb usage meter working?
There is a reason for that and it has to do with de-sensitize consumers and 'educate' them to the idea of a global metered internet. Comcast made an interesting move by 'revising' their cap policy... basically they are not enforcing them like they did before »venturebeat.com/2012/05/17/comca···ta-caps/
TWC did something very interesting too by making the caps optional on the lower tiers and not having them on the high speed tiers »arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012···billing/
AT&T's broken usage cap meter? I don't think so, they just want you to get used to the idea of having them around and when the time is right... we have good news for our uverse users, your AT&T usage meter is now fixed you can track your usage by clicking the link at the end of this email. |
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 maartenaElmoPremium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1 | reply to dbeatson
What I really want to know from e.g. Merlin or another AT&T person:
What is this puppy going to cost once it is live?
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| There is no way that it will cost less than $90 a month.
They might keep it at $95, $4 cheaper than Time Warner's 50 Mbps tier, since it will be 5 Mbps slower... then they'll sneak in that $4 modem rental to bring it up to $99 so it costs the same as the competition while delivering less. That's the AT&T way. |
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| That's how AT&T "Rethinks Possible" lol... |
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said by etaadmin:AT&T a company with the largest and fastest network in the universe and with super fast internet plans
dude .... Ill let you get by with a lot of the bullshit you say ..but LULZ. Personal feelings and wanting things to be true doesn't mean they are ..and in this case they absolutely are not. Whether you are talking about long-haul fiber, business service, or in this case home service ... i mean wow.
When you say super-fast internet plans ... compared to what ... ATT uverse vdsl v. ATT ADSL? How about the largest and fastest network on the planet? Really? HEH. I dunno man ..i think with the "largest and fastest" people like Google, Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, Yahoo, ect ..would have their equipment housed in DC's using ATT pipes ...oh yeah they don't.
So come back with some real data that shows ATT has the largest fastest network on the planet with super-fast internet speeds... otherwise...its BS. Remember your opinions based on brainwashing sheeple commercials don't count. |
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That's interesting. So is it a 4-conductor cable plugging into one jack on the back of the device? Or two phone cables? That would likely require minor re-wiring in some buildings that aren't set up for dual phone lines...
Competing with cable... what a joke. Once cable gets their stuff figured out with upload, it will simply blow U-Verse out of the water. |
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
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said by StLCardsFan:said by etaadmin:AT&T a company with the largest and fastest network in the universe and with super fast internet plans
dude .... Ill let you get by with a lot of the bullshit you say ..but LULZ. Personal feelings and wanting things to be true doesn't mean they are ..and in this case they absolutely are not. Whether you are talking about long-haul fiber, business service, or in this case home service ... i mean wow. When you say super-fast internet plans ... compared to what ... ATT uverse vdsl v. ATT ADSL? How about the largest and fastest network on the planet? Really? HEH. I dunno man ..i think with the "largest and fastest" people like Google, Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, Yahoo, ect ..would have their equipment housed in DC's using ATT pipes ...oh yeah they don't. So come back with some real data that shows ATT has the largest fastest network on the planet with super-fast internet speeds... otherwise...its BS. Remember your opinions based on brainwashing sheeple commercials don't count. You failed to note that my comment was meant as a sarcasm. |
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| ohhh ... well that makes sense then! my bad! |
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Ummm
join:2011-10-26
united state | reply to maartena
said by maartena:What I really want to know from e.g. Merlin or another AT&T person:
What is this puppy going to cost once it is live?
Pricing is up in the air, it depends on competition. Expect a very slow rollout when it launches. This profile works great in the lab, but lousy in real world conditions. |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL | Well in the NE Comcast will be making the Blast tier which runs around $59 50 mbps. The $100 Extreme 50 tier is going to become 105 mbps.
Meanwhile at&t charges $63 for the 24/3 tier |
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BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH | It depends on the area. Some areas are Comcast, some aren't. New London, CT is on Metrocast, which tops out at a lousy 25/2. Other areas are Charter or Cox. |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL | I felt that was obvious but yes, it would only be in Comcast terriories in the NE |
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I don't understand why anyone even bothers to mention how faster speeds are available and/or cheaper than AT&T's offering when those services are capped. What's the point in having 50Mbps if you can only use it 1.6% of the month? |
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 oneoone
join:2010-01-20
Lagrange, GA
kudos:1 | reply to dbeatson
Have charter 100meg, never been capped. |
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Tell me that when you go over 500GB (that's up + down) every month... |
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Merlin
join:2012-06-08
Dallas, TX | reply to Ummm
said by StLCardsFan:dude .... Ill let you get by with a lot of the bullshit you say ..but LULZ. Personal feelings and wanting things to be true doesn't mean they are ..and in this case they absolutely are not. Whether you are talking about long-haul fiber, business service, or in this case home service ... i mean wow.
When you say super-fast internet plans ... compared to what ... ATT uverse vdsl v. ATT ADSL? How about the largest and fastest network on the planet? Really? HEH. I dunno man ..i think with the "largest and fastest" people like Google, Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, Yahoo, ect ..would have their equipment housed in DC's using ATT pipes ...oh yeah they don't.
So come back with some real data that shows ATT has the largest fastest network on the planet with super-fast internet speeds... otherwise...its BS. Remember your opinions based on brainwashing sheeple commercials don't count.
I guess it doesn't resonate with you that a global network includes much more than just the Internet. AT&T is the largest telecommunications network in the world and has almost 1M route miles of fiber deployed around the globe. The new 40Gbps MPLS network in the US went online last month and is the first of it's kind domestically. Google, Amazon, Netflix and all of those other content providers purchase some or most of their network assets from carriers like AT&T. They are not tier 1 global networks.
said by Ummm:Pricing is up in the air, it depends on competition. Expect a very slow rollout when it launches. This profile works great in the lab, but lousy in real world conditions.
Your comments on the pricing would be accurate but your comments on the profile couldn't be further from the truth. |
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