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mbernste
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[OOL] Cablevision & Open Connect

Given the rather favorable opinion by James Dolan in regards to Netflix streaming over Cablevision's Optimum Online to the point that he'd like to put Netflix on our cable boxes (can't find the article at the moment where he said this), do you think we'll eventually see Cablevision use Netflix's Open Connect CDN in the future?



mbernste
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It was actually Tom Rutledge who said it, so close enough.

quote:
We’re moving rapidly to make that technology work even better and we think within a matter of months we’ll have a very robust system where customers can take their Netflix product, whether they have a device that carries Netflix or not , or Hulu or any other over-the-top service and put it on the TV,” he said. “To the extent that that has a moderating effect on our programming costs, that’s good. To the extent it satisfies customers, that’s good.



MxxCon

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Does it matter? Do we need to care?
It's between CV and Netflix to decide if they'll implement it.
And even if they will implement it, you'll never know about it. This is an internal to CV infrastructure issue.
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mbernste
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I actually do care for several reasons. First of all, it will provide for a smoother streaming experience (TV takes a good 30-60 seconds of buffering before the stream starts). Secondly, if Cablevision ever decides to institute caps, it wouldn't count against them (similar to what Comcast is doing). Thirdly it frees up more external bandwidth on my connection for other activities. Fourthly it will empower Cablevision to offer Netflix via its cable boxes for "non-smart" televisions. Fifthly it gives Cablevision another opportunity for generating revenue via revenue sharing with Netflix, thus reducing pricing pressures on their customers.



MxxCon

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said by mbernste:

First of all, it will provide for a smoother streaming experience (TV takes a good 30-60 seconds of buffering before the stream starts).

Not necessarily. Most limiting factor in your viewing experience is stability of connection between your house and headend. Installing boxes on CV's network won't change that.
said by mbernste:

Secondly, if Cablevision ever decides to institute caps, it wouldn't count against them (similar to what Comcast is doing).

First you don't know if CV will institute transfer caps.
Second you don't know if transfer from within their network will count toward that cap or not. Chances are they will.
Third, Comcast is not doing that with Netflix. They are doing that with xbox360 streaming because MS shoved them a pile of money. You need to read up on what exactly Comcast is doing there.
Forth, this will be one of the most blatant violations of Network Neutrality. Netflix is a big supporter of Network Neutrality and will not stand for that. They will not agree for ISPs not to count their traffic. If you understand Network Neutrality, you'll understand why.
said by mbernste:

Thirdly it frees up more external bandwidth on my connection for other activities.

It will not.
It doesn't matter where traffic originates, it will still use your 15/2 or 30/5 bandwidth. You can receive data from your next door neighbor or from China, it will still use exactly the same amount of your bandwidth.
said by mbernste:

Fourthly it will empower Cablevision to offer Netflix via its cable boxes for "non-smart" televisions.

It will not. You do not understand what OpenConnect initiative is. Equipment that Netflix installs on ISPs premises are nothing but simply caching servers to stream exactly the same files that they are doing now from their own facilities. It does not enable any additional functionality to any other devices.
Furthermore, CV considers Netflix to be a competitor(even if they say its not). They get a lot more money from TV service. They will do everything in their power to discourage cord-cutting. Partnering with Netflix is not one of those things.
said by mbernste:

Fifthly it gives Cablevision another opportunity for generating revenue via revenue sharing with Netflix, thus reducing pricing pressures on their customers.

That will not happen. Netflix will not pay ISPs for this. Netflix's license agreement with studios does not allow them to resell their content through anybody.
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