said by dave:
I conclude you're against it because you are unable to solve the problem.
Secure Boot at this time is really only needed for one "OS."
Its solves nothing really, security wise.
said by dave:
So, just turn off Secure Boot and you're done (at least on x86).
First I plan to.
said by TuxRaiderPen2:
Any new hardware I get will be:
UEFI and Secure Boot - DISABLED
Legacy BIOS ENABLED
UEFI BIOS REPALCED with a NON UEFI and I will be actively sourcing motherboards with just that ability and BIOS(s).
If your reading comprehension had kicked in you would have read the above in a prior message.
said by dave:
Oh, why didn't you say? You're a conspiracy nut.
No. If you don't think ms is 'splain'ng' to OEM's on this, then YOUR the nut! Its about as bad if not worse than the whole payola in the record [music] business.
Any one who fails to get that xyz OEM is going to be heavily pressured and other tactics to be sure that NO KEY other than the "annointed and approved" key is in the BIOS.
said by dave:
So, just turn off Secure Boot and you're done (at least on x86).
Again, rereading prior post, will show:
said by TuxRaiderPen2:
Any new hardware I get will be:
UEFI and Secure Boot - DISABLED
Legacy BIOS ENABLED
UEFI BIOS REPALCED with a NON UEFI and I will be actively sourcing motherboards with just that ability and BIOS(s).
Plain and simple bolied down, UEFI, is just more whippersnappers who got bored and could not just leave well enough alone and find something more constructive to do in with their coding.
Its a
BASIC INPUT/OUTPUT SYSTEM, it is NOT a !@$!&*&$!*(&$!*(@& *! GUI system... and you don't need no !*()@&$!()@*$!()* mouse to change things in the BIOS!
Scripting in a BIOS? For WHAT?! ! Security hole wider than a battelship!
What you need is a
BASIC system to display the settings and allow changes. NOTHING MORE. So it don't have cute little stupid icons, or mouse movements, or touch screen, or explain what any of this does... aaahhhh poor little idolts can't handle it... waaahhhhaaa.. be lucky you don't have to bootstrap your PC's to start them! Been there, done it! I would have zero issue with going back to it, and maybe even dig out the punch tape, cards, and TTY's!
Want to add GPT support or better support for larger HD's, or other things, fine! Doesn't mean we need this mess!
I will say it again... when it started, Secure Boot, probably had good intentions and merit... at this point it does not!
Your missing the ball and the game... its over here! ! ! Ignore the man behind the curtain! And your little dog too!