martiColor outside the linesPremium,MVM
|reply to FusionX101 |
Re: [Verizon] Why do companies force data on all smartphones
If you don't want data, then get a phone that that is not smart. You still can find phones that make phone calls and that's it. There are providers that have grandpa and grandma phones that only make phone calls.
It always kills me when this discussion comes up. First you have to spend hours proving why you don't want a data plan while weeding through post after post of social commentary on your lack of coolness or not being with the program in order to search for an answer that usually never manifests itself. WTFDIM? If you don't want a data plan, you don't want one. Personally, tell me why it is "smart" to have a "smart phone" that siphons $30 on top or over the $50 or more out of your bank account each month for a service you may use 5-10% of the time, utilizing a home or workplace wi-fi the remainder of the time.
Maybe simply you want a computer to fit in your pocket and don't have enough pockets to hold an arsenal of devices (camera, phone, computer). GPS might be an offline issue but if the phone has the capability you can load one that works offline. You can buy a heck of lot of mapping software in trade for not paying $360+ per year for a seldom used data plan. A two year contract plus the subsided cost of most smart phones is $1000+ )+tax +texting +voice) up front for the contract duration and $360+ (+tax +texting +voice) per year of ongoing fees. Not that smart in my opinion.
Still there are those who may stress an alternative of using a full data/voice/text package with a carrier off the mainstream but a lot of these use Sprint and the coverage map for it is sub-par to most of the competition. Still it comes back to the fact that if you don't want a data plan, you don't want a data plan and it would be kind and beneficial to receive info here only about how you accomplish that without commentary on why you are making a mistake or not intelligent to ask for info on how to set up a smart phone with voice and no data plan.
With all that said, it looks like buying a Chinese smart phone with an IMEI number unknown to the monopoly US carriers may be the answer. I will continue to investigate.
It is hard to give you more detail advice on unknown IMEI phones unless we know which provider you eventually want to use, I am guessing AT&T.
I have an unlocked Samsung Exhibit II 4G that AT&T does not recognize. AT&T also did not recognize a Nokia 900.
I see two problems with this strategy
1) You do not know if your provider (AT&T) will eventually start to sell the model, e.g. the unknown phone model gets recognized
2) The AT&T plans (data or no data) are not the best value (IMHO)
My strategy is unlocked phone, Google voice as the main number, several sim cards that I can activate as no contract prepaid in a few minutes.
I can now use T-mobile or AT&T or a MVNO as Straighttalk. No contract means I leave my provider if I am unhappy for any reason. I can try out a provider with little effort and cost.
Unfortunately, it does not work for VZW who I am currently with. Granted, their newer phones uses a SIM for the LTE, but I (and my mum) is still on 3G. I know my mom does not want anything to do with fancy phones (as she told me when I was shopping for one), and I sure as hell have no need for a data plan. I broke an LG Chocolate Touch and now have the Samsung Rogue. Unless something happens to it, I'll be with that phone until (unfortunately) they turn off the 3G and force me and my mom on LTE.
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|reply to Hagar |
AT&T is the plan and it is for a family member add-on at $9.95 a month who talks seldom, about 90 minutes a month at most, wants one device with phone capability, no data plan, camera and internet access through wi-fi all in one device. GPS using satellite without any data plan requirement for cell tower location would also be nice. If the cell tower locator doesn't require a data plan, I wouldn't be against the technology. Thanks.
I recommend that you get a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, it is unlocked and AT&T did not recognize the IMEI last time I checked (June 2012).
For GPS I would checkout the apps MapDroyd or Navigon I do not have experience with either but they claim to do GPS without data plan.