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Re: Won't Last Long said by thegeek:Root and custom recovery are already done. Devs will have the bootloader cracked in no time. And Samsung released the kernel source today so that should help the development of this device.
My preorder should be delivered tomorrow. Can't wait to start tinkering.
The Bionic has been rooted for ages, but as of yet they've been unable to crack the bootloader due to encryption. I wouldn't be so confident they'll be any more successful with the SGS3, unless Verizon uses a different method to lock the bootloaders on Motorola and Samsung phones. |
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 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | said by AnonFTW : I wouldn't be so confident they'll be any more successful with the SGS3, unless Verizon uses a different method to lock the bootloaders on Motorola and Samsung phones.
Motorola definitely uses a much different method. I think that ALL Android phones that VZW offers have locked bootloaders but many are exploited (I won't say easily). Many, many of them were all vulnerable to the same Zerg exploit so effectively one method cracked them all (on more than just VZW too). |
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| said by Hall:said by AnonFTW : I wouldn't be so confident they'll be any more successful with the SGS3, unless Verizon uses a different method to lock the bootloaders on Motorola and Samsung phones.
Motorola definitely uses a much different method. I think that ALL Android phones that VZW offers have locked bootloaders but many are exploited (I won't say easily). Many, many of them were all vulnerable to the same Zerg exploit so effectively one method cracked them all (on more than just VZW too). So in this case, is the manufacturer locking on behalf (at the request of) of Verizon, or Verizon themselves? |
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The Droid (original) was not locked. I had one and loved that phone |
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said by AnonFTW :The Bionic has been rooted for ages, but as of yet they've been unable to crack the bootloader due to encryption. I wouldn't be so confident they'll be any more successful with the SGS3, unless Verizon uses a different method to lock the bootloaders on Motorola and Samsung phones.
Motorola themselves have a no unlocked bootloader policy, so it's encrypted with no hope for unlocking. Samsung devices are commonly unlocked by Samsung themselves, so there is much more hope to unlocking the bootloader. |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | reply to AnonFTW
said by AnonFTW : So in this case, is the manufacturer locking on behalf (at the request of) of Verizon, or Verizon themselves? Verizon is no doubt requiring this of the manufacturers of their phones. Nothing against VZW, but they aren't in the low-level hardware/software business of mobile phones. |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | reply to CableConvert
said by CableConvert:The Droid (original) was not locked. I had one and loved that phone I guess I should have made it clearer that "currently" Motorola uses a much different method.
As for your OG Droid, are you sure it was already unlocked or was it easily un-lockable ? |
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 thegeekPremium
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kudos:2 | reply to CableConvert
I believe the OG Droid was locked as well. It was just extremely easy to unlock. |
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| I think the bootloader was always unlocked on the OG Droid. All I did was root mine and I was able to change kernels, which I believe is tied to bootloader status. |
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thegeekPremium
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kudos:2 | The root process involved unlocking the bootloader. The difference was it was unsigned and not encrypted. That means it's a simple flip of the switch. |
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| Rooting wouldn't do anything to the bootloader. The Milestone bootloader was locked, but recently I couldn't root a Droid so I instead flashed a custom ROM that was already rooted without any other modification. |
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thegeekPremium
join:2008-02-21
right here
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Yes, you are correct that rooting does nothing to the bootloader. But that is not what I said. The process for obtaining root on the OG Droid involved a step that unlocked the bootloader in most cases. Since the bootloader on the OG Droid was unsigned and not encrypted, it was a simple on/off switch.
I have no idea about the process for the Milestone though. Although identical, it is a different device. |
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| I flashed a custom unsigned ROM before I rooted my Droid in one instance without rooting. The bootloader was never locked on the Droid, and this is confirmed by XDA Developers. |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | said by NeoandGeo:...and this is confirmed by XDA Developers. One random person is hardly "confirmation", but nonetheless, as I've found out, it is still correct: The original Motorola Droid had an unlocked bootloader. |
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| Lol, I knew someone would notice that. 
All I needed was one other confirmation from anyone to bring me up from 99.9% sure it was unlocked straight out. For some reason I couldn't root my grandmothers OG Droid on the latest firmware so I simply loaded a random rooted ROM to get access to avoid a lengthy root process. |
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