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powerspec88
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join:2007-03-11
Lees Summit, MO

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Re: Here is what happened last time...

TWC is still trying to win me back after moving to Surewest. I will never go back, the local peering with Surewest in KC is something I can't give up. I don't care how much cheaper they are. I might not even move to Google Fibre if they don't peer local.
davidhoffman
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join:2009-11-19
Warner Robins, GA

davidhoffman

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I am curious as to what it is about local peering that is interests you. From the research I did it seems to be about agreements between or among ISPs. Unless you are an ISP, I do not see any issues for a retail customer to concern themselves with. What am I missing in my research that explains your view of this issue better?
tvoldtimer
join:2010-09-16
Shawnee, KS

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said by powerspec88:

TWC is still trying to win me back after moving to Surewest. I will never go back, the local peering with Surewest in KC is something I can't give up. I don't care how much cheaper they are. I might not even move to Google Fibre if they don't peer local.

Well you might be moving if you want Google Fiber since it will not be coming to Johnson county.

powerspec88
Premium Member
join:2007-03-11
Lees Summit, MO

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The lower latency ~7ms to any datacenter in KC, and knowing that all your traffic is not even leaving the area when you go to these places. Also it means lower latency over all. I get on avg. 30ms lower latency with Surewest than I did with TWC as they route all traffic to Chicago before being handed off.

Tracing route to 1and1.com [74.208.4.12]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3     4 ms     5 ms     5 ms  64-126-2-213.static.everestkc.net[64.126.2.213]
 
  4     5 ms     7 ms     5 ms  64-126-2-5.static.everestkc.net [64.126.2.5]
  5     5 ms     5 ms     5 ms  64-126-2-14.static.everestkc.net [64.126.2.14]
  6     6 ms     7 ms     6 ms  te-4-2.car1.KansasCity1.Level3.net [4.53.32.33]
 
  7     6 ms    11 ms     5 ms  11-INTERNET.car1.KansasCity1.Level3.net [4.53.32.10]
  8     6 ms     7 ms     7 ms  te-2-2.bb-d.slr.lxa.us.oneandone.net [74.208.1.77]
  9    27 ms     7 ms     9 ms  ae-2.gw-dists-a.slr.lxa.us.oneandone.net [74.208.1.115]
 10     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  www.1and1.com [74.208.4.12]
 
Trace complete.
 

Tracing route to joesdatacenter.com [96.43.134.146]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms     *       <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  64-126-2-213.static.everestkc.net [64.126.2.213]
 
  4   187 ms   102 ms     6 ms  64-126-2-5.static.everestkc.net [64.126.2.5]
  5    10 ms     6 ms     6 ms  64-126-2-22.static.everestkc.net [64.126.2.22]
  6     6 ms     7 ms     7 ms  te0-0-0-4.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.104.86.101]
  7     9 ms     7 ms     7 ms  te0-2-0-0.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.158]
  8     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  te2-1.mag02.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.166]
  9     7 ms     7 ms     9 ms  38.104.86.74
 10     8 ms     9 ms    13 ms  SW1.KCMODATACENTER.COM [96.43.134.6]
 11     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  96.43.134.146
 
Trace complete.
 
powerspec88

powerspec88 to tvoldtimer

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I was all ready planing on moving depending on where its gonna be, prices, and peering.

Yoshi420x
@clearwire-wmx.net

Yoshi420x to tvoldtimer

Anon

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And how would you know it's not coming to johnson county?