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reply to Alpha Phoenix

Re: [Sci-Fi] Fringe: Season Five

reply to Alpha Phoenix
I agree but to a point.

It does seem like there are a lot of missing pieces that the writers need to reconcile. However, the observers seemed to always have some sort of hidden agenda. November (or was it October or September I forget) clearly had some difficulty following said agenda. Anyway, I feel that there were clues. The last appearance of November seemed like a harbinger of grave things to come,….IMO. If I recall correctly November gave Walter info on who the Observers are and something of a warning.

However, that whole amber thing didn’t really make much sense IMO. In a way it seems like the equivalent to sticking their collective heads in the sand.

I mean what kind of thinking goes into that? Fringe division is one of the few organizations with knowledge of the Observers (prior to the attack and occupation) and are the most capable of dealing with them so they devise a plan (presumably with the help of November) and then promptly amber themselves!?!

That only makes sense if there was a part of the plain that requires something that would only be available in the future.

Yup I go along with you.
Starting the final and 5th season I do feel like I missed a whole year of eps so decidely the producers expected 6 seasons and had to fast fwd to bring about a good final ending to the show. Unfortunate but at least it's not one of these series which ends suddenly with a whole storyline unfinished.

Meantime I get the uneasy feeling that there is a mole in the Fringe group and I hope it isn't the "daughter". That would be a sad twist...

reply to Octavean
I think they ambered themselves as a way of hiding, kind of an emergency plan.

at the time it was like a war and they were being hunted so they had to hide.

I think its going along the lines of they skipped a lot so that they could raise the mystery because this way we the viewers don't know what happened and they can slowly reveal it, where as if they had done that it might have been less interesting of a season and we'd already be in the know and thus fewer surprises.

I got the sense of that too. A desperate contingency,...

A calculated risk. High risk at that. When in amber they cannot think or act which is their greatest asset. They cannot even free themselves from the amber since they are in a form of suspended animation and even if they could it doesn't stop anyone from finding them and imprisoning them before they can do so.

They were basically defenseless beyond the assumption that their whereabouts were unknown. And even that was suspect given that Olivia was acquired while still incased in amber.

There were 101 ways this could have gone wrong.

There was virtually no reason to think this amber plan would work.

That's not say its not still a fun ride though,.....

Yeah I think this is just their way of explaining the Observer question to close out the series. Who are they and why are they here? Now we know. And yes I'm sure we'll get more of the backstory from the intervening years as the episodes progress.

As for the amber, it's just Fringe's version of red matter. This is JJ Abrams after all.

Speaking of JJ Abrams and that, I had a lost flash back watching 666 Park Ave.

A suitcase was opened and out of it came grey smoke [smoke monster JR].
Reason I thought that is because of Terry O'Quinn starring in it.

I had a chuckle moment there.
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Back to Fringe... what's with this teleportation ability the Observers seem to have? Are they using technology or is it some inherent ability?

reply to darcilicious
Where did the bullet on the necklace come from? They explained something about it, but I do not recall where it is coming from.

reply to Wily_One
seems like their ability to just move through time the way we walk through a room. Doesn't explain why they don't have precognition of what will happen when they pop out, though. Why would you pop up somewhere if you knew you were going to get shot the moment afterwards?

I think they explained that.

there's a small window of time, ie if it were a normal gun they could dodge it, but those are hyper speed guns that fire to fast for them to dodge.

reply to talz13
Maybe it has something to do with the uncertainty principle / Heisenberg principle. Probably not though. I don’t think the Observers know what is going to happen though. I think they know or are aware of the possible outcomes within a certain degree of precision.

FUUUUUUK!

My local Fox station decided to preempt Fringe for some show about the Giants, and my DVR did not record the episode. Anyone know how soon before tonight's ep is streamed?

Eight days after the airdate unless you're on some cable system that has some kind of deal with FOX.

»www.fox.com/fringe/full-episodes···in-story
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Yeah that blows. Damn KTVU.

I can let you stream it from me if you like If so, drop me a PM (You'll need to do two things on your end: install Plex Media Center, not the media server, and create an account at »my.plexapp.com)
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reply to Wily_One
There are other ways you can watch the episode you know.

Check your PM.

Yes, thanks guys - I found a stream to watch, so we're all caught up now.