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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:39:28 EDT

Spy posted : Alexander held firm that the Internet defenses could be ramped up without sacrificing privacy or civil liberties. A "perfectly secure" Internet is in the nation's best interest and would help revive the staggering economy, he argued.
"Look at all the intellectual property we've lost over the past decade," Alexander said. "It's huge. If we could fix that it would help our economic growth."

just showing the rest for those that don't click the link

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Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:20:14 EDT
Name Game posted :

US spy master courts top hackers at Def Con

By Glenn Chapman (AFP) – 3 hours ago
LAS VEGAS — US spy master Keith Alexander courted hackers at an infamous Def Con gathering rife with software tricksters wary of police and ferociously protective of privacy.
National Security Agency (NSA) director Alexander on Friday was the latest, and perhaps the most controversial, federal official to attend the annual hacker conference in Las Vegas to recruit warriors for battles being fought on the Internet.
"I am absolutely impressed with some of the stuff going on here," Alexander said during a keynote presentation to a packed auditorium.
"In this room is the talent our nation needs to secure cyber space."
His Def Con visit came after he was quoted by the New York Times as saying that between 2009 and 2011 there was a 17-fold increase in cyber attacks on critical US infrastructure such as power grids and mobile phone networks.
Along with being boss of the NSA, Alexander is an Army general and head of US Cyber Command created to defend against Internet-based attacks.
"My concern is destructive attacks with serious consequences on critical infrastructure (and key government systems)," Alexander said.
He displayed a list of major companies including banks; credit card firms; videogame and car makers, and even computer security outfits, successfully hacked in the past two years.
"There are a lot of companies with tremendous cyber security expertise getting hacked," Alexander said.
"The reality is that this is the community that who builds many of these tools," he continued with an apparent reference to software weapons wielded by cyber attackers.
"This community, better than anyone, understands where this is going and what we can do to fix that."
He referred to Def Con as "the world's best cyber community."
Alexander, who sprinkled humor and personal stories into his talk, displayed a website for NSA job seekers.
"We need great talent," he said. "We don't pay as high as some of the others, but we are fun to be around."
Reaction in the audience ranged from stone-faced silence to grumbling that if federal official want hackers to be their friends they should stop arresting them.

Alexander did not take questions directly from the audience but did answer queries that Def Con founder and organizer Jeff Moss, whose hacker name is Dark Tangent, received via Twitter or other channels.
First, Moss said, he wanted to know whether the NSA keeps files on everyone and, if so, how he could see his.
Moss has gone on to head security at the agency responsible for the world's website addresses since starting Def Con as a young hacker 20 years ago.
"Absolutely not," Alexander said, noting that the humorous question deserved a serious answer. "The people who are saying we are doing that should know better."

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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:30:17 EDT
Spy posted : if you keep this thread going, i'm going to speak out soon too. :D
i think i need a good spanking by my nun in grammar school again.

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:06:51 EDT
StuartMW posted :
said by Name Game:
...and we have to find something else to wrap the fish. :(
I always used newspapers for lining the kitty litter tray :)
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:24:57 EDT
Name Game posted : NSA whistleblowers: Government spying on every single American

»rt.com/usa/news/nsa-whistleblowe···ake-978/

I like these articles..the longer people like Binney go on the speaker and interview circuit for $$$..the better their story gets. :D

Too bad it does not sell newspapers..but those days are done and we have to find something else to wrap the fish. :(
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:01:03 EDT
Name Game posted :
said by EGeezer:
Ah, 9th grade algebra. Nun slapping me on the back of my head for sleeping. But I remembered the word problems.

X is the price in cents of the ball.
X+100 is the price in cents of the bat.

X+(X+100)=110
2X+100=110
2X=10
X=5
X+100=105

So what if you had just two eggs ?

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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:50:59 EDT
Name Game posted : Maybe she was whacking flies... and keeping a list .

»online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:41:41 EDT
EGeezer posted : Ah, 9th grade algebra. Nun slapping me on the back of my head for sleeping. But I remembered the word problems.

X is the price in cents of the ball.
X+100 is the price in cents of the bat.

X+(X+100)=110
2X+100=110
2X=10
X=5
X+100=105

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:20:05 EDT
Name Game posted : NSA whistleblower Bill Binney speaks...

NSA whistleblower Bill Binney delivered the keynote address at the HOPE 9 hackers conference in New York City in early July 2012. Watch the longtime NSA cryptographer discuss what he views as the agency's moral collapse, above.

»privacysos.org/node/759

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs8zd7_william-binney-hope-9-keynote-part1_tech#from=embediframe

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs8zl4_william-binney-hope-9-keynote-part2_tech#from=embediframe

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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Thu, 19 Jul 2012 05:41:08 EDT
tholly911 posted : Numbers are indeed fun. Very enjoyable video!!

A book I have enjoyed and can highly recommend is "Fermat's Last Theorem."

It provides a glimpse into advanced topics without having to fully understand them.

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:54:50 EDT
NormanS posted : Shame on you! Such a 'noughty' post!!! :o

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Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:49:10 EDT
Name Game posted : ;)

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=daro6K6m···bedded#!

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Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:33:18 EDT
NormanS posted :
said by coldmoon:
That's an old one - ball costs 5 cents and the bat is $1.05...

I knew as soon as I answered I was wrong, but couldn't express how I knew, and totally forgot how to frame the question algebraically. I kind of slid into the correction sideways: If the ball costs 10 cents, then the dollar for the bat is only 90 cents more ...

But I got the lake answer right!

quote:
In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Every day, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half of the lake?

For some reason I did not fall into the shortcut trap (... to divide the final answer by half. That leads you to twenty-four days.)

I don't know why the answer to this one seemed so obvious, having failed the other. Maybe a vague recollection of geometric progression? Or was that exponential growth? Anyway, I figured it out by avoiding the mental trap.
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Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:09:52 EDT
DrModem posted : Term limits don't solve anything. It just speeds up the rotation.

Term limits mean when you actually do get a good person, they immediately get thrown out like everyone else.

The government is not actually the problem. The government is just a symptom. The people are the root of the problem.

The only thing that will actually change the government is the people as a whole changing their minds about what government they will tolerate. Until then we will continue to get the same government as we have been getting for decades, because deep down on the large scale, it's the government we want.

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Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:39:32 EDT
camaro92 posted :
said by DrModem:
Throwing people out as the cure assumes you are throwing the right people in behind them.

Yea life's a bitch but I feel they all need 4 year terms just like the President, maybe that could light a fire under there asses so they won't get comfortable and not do a damn thing, but like you said it depends on the right candidate.

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:56:02 EDT
Name Game posted :
HOPE 9 - WikiLeaks, Whistleblowers, and the War on the First Amendment
54 min video

A panel held at HOPE Number 9 in New York City, 13 July 2012.
»www.hopenumbernine.net/

"The Director of ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project will provide an overview of the Espionage Act and the other statutes that the government has employed to prosecute leakers and threaten publishers. Ben will discuss the ACLU's litigation on behalf of WikiLeaks supporters whose Twitter records have been subpoenaed and whose laptops have been seized by government agents, and will place the Obama administration's unprecedented campaign against leakers in legal and historical context."

Panelists are ACLU lawyers Ben Wizner, Catherine Crump, and John Reinstein.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_Kl6mpYd4

Note: William Binney is in the audience during this talk.
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:30:24 EDT
Name Game posted : Comes from not eating your vegetables :(

»www.brainpickings.org/index.php/···numbers/

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:03:52 EDT
StuartMW posted :
said by tholly911:
Scary to think how large the percentage of the general population can not express a word problem mathematically.

+1

The first thing I do when I see problems of this kind is write equations. Of course it gets a bit trickier when you have more than two unknowns. In those case I use matrices :)

PS: The irony is that I'm hopeless at mental arithmetic :(
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:55:47 EDT
tholly911 posted : x + 1 + x = 1.1
2x + 1 = 1.1
2x = 0.1
x = 0.05

When the complexity increases beyond solve by inspection ... let's not forget the basic tool and encourage its usage.

Algebra

Scary to think how large the percentage of the general population can not express a word problem mathematically.

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:49:33 EDT
Spy posted :
said by StuartMW:
Without reading the article I bet it involves rubber gloves and bending over :(

Wow, that's the best truth i've seen written here in years. :o

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:01:14 EDT
OZO posted :
said by Kilroy:
What is the government going to do when we finally secure the Internet with completely encrypted traffic?

It will make up new terrorists, to scare people and to make itself even more important for them...
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Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:14:56 EDT
DrModem posted :
said by camaro92:
Only thing us peon's can do is follow the trail to the senators, congressman who know about this and defend it by the cloak of national security and vote there asses out, I am sure there is plenty in D.C that are clueless about these programs but the important one's know.

Like that's ever worked.

56 of the 100 senators have been in office less than 10 years. 31 of those have been in office for less than 5 years.

246 of the 433 house members have been in office less than 10 years. 150 of those have been there less than 5 years, and 103 of those have been in LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

In other words, you basically get a new senate majority every 10 years, and you get a new house majority every 3-5 years.

Throwing people out as the cure assumes you are throwing the right people in behind them. Which is not the case, as the drumbeat goes on unchanging house after house, senate after senate, despite everyone getting thrown out consistently.

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Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:03:48 EDT
Name Game posted :
said by DrModem:
said by Name Game:
What are you doing about it ?

What can you do about it?

Nothing.

I don't use AT&T ..how bout you ?

»www.eff.org/nsa/faq#38
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Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:50:28 EDT
DrModem posted :
said by Name Game:
What are you doing about it ?

What can you do about it?

Nothing.

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:50:51 EDT
Name Game posted :
said by StuartMW:
said by Name Game:
A bat and ball cost a dollar and ten cents.
If you tell me where I can buy a bat & ball for $1.10 I'll answer the question :D

Yur just saying that cause Mom liked you best..it's still your turn to do the dishes and you can't get out of that one. :mad:

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:29:26 EDT
FutureMon posted : Yeah one of them yellow plastic bats and whiffle balls :)

- FM

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:20:15 EDT
Thaler posted :
said by StuartMW:
If you tell me where I can buy a bat & ball for $1.10 I'll answer the question :D

The $1.10 store?

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:10:31 EDT
coldmoon posted :
said by Name Game:
Which reminds me....Here’s a simple arithmetic question: A bat and ball cost a dollar and ten cents. The bat costs a dollar more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

»www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/f···ies.html

That's an old one - ball costs 5 cents and the bat is $1.05...
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:03:12 EDT
MaynardKrebs posted :
said by Kilroy:
I believe this has gone both ways in the US.

Feds unlock suspect's encrypted drive, avoid Constitution meltdown

Judge Rules Refusing to Decrypt Hard Drive is Covered by Fifth Amendment

The whole thing is that you're going to be put in jail for years until it gets worked out.

But in the end, you can't make math illegal, which is all encryption is. However, with the rate the US population is failing in math you may not have to.

The government has been perfecting rubber-hose and waterboard decryption techniques for years at places like Guantanamo.

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Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:34:44 EDT
camaro92 posted : Only thing us peon's can do is follow the trail to the senators, congressman who know about this and defend it by the cloak of national security and vote there asses out, I am sure there is plenty in D.C that are clueless about these programs but the important one's know.

Thank's for the awesome link this needs to stay in the news as long as possible but I have a feeling I won't be seeing this on the 5 o'clock news.

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:29:49 EDT
StuartMW posted :
said by Name Game:
A bat and ball cost a dollar and ten cents.
If you tell me where I can buy a bat & ball for $1.10 I'll answer the question :D
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:15:54 EDT
Name Game posted : Which reminds me....Here’s a simple arithmetic question: A bat and ball cost a dollar and ten cents. The bat costs a dollar more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

»www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/f···ies.html

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:03 EDT
Name Game posted :
said by Kilroy:
What is the government going to do when we finally secure the Internet with completely encrypted traffic?

Put out forest fires. :D

DARPA Creates Machine Which Extinguishes Fires With Sound
Posted by samzenpus on Sunday July 15, @11:04PM
from the wall-of-sound dept.
SchrodingerZ writes
"The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is known for making odd scientific advances ranging from hypersonic unnamed rockets to bionic prosthetic limbs to insect-sized reconnaissance drones. But recently DARPA has made a interesting advancement in the field of fire suppression. Using two speakers arranged on either side of an open liquid fuel flame, an acoustic field was emitted and engulfed the fire. 'The sound increases air velocity, which then thins the area of the flame where combustion occurs, known as the flame boundary.' This make the flame weak and much easier to douse. Another wonderful thing about this: it's not even that loud! DARPA began its testing in 2008, stating that despite extensive research in this area, there have been no new methods for extinguishing and/or manipulating fire in almost 50 years. The agency plans to expand on this experiment and try to make it successful on a practical scale."
»science.slashdot.org/story/12/07···th-sound
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:16:55 EDT
Kilroy posted : I believe this has gone both ways in the US.

Feds unlock suspect's encrypted drive, avoid Constitution meltdown

Judge Rules Refusing to Decrypt Hard Drive is Covered by Fifth Amendment

The whole thing is that you're going to be put in jail for years until it gets worked out.

But in the end, you can't make math illegal, which is all encryption is. However, with the rate the US population is failing in math you may not have to.
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:38:32 EDT
Blackbird posted :
said by Kilroy:
What is the government going to do when we finally secure the Internet with completely encrypted traffic?

Perhaps, in one form or another, they'll do what the Brits have already done: In the UK you will go to jail for Encryption. The erosion of rights and freedoms in the Western world (including the US) under the guise of combating terrorism or some other threat-d'jour is accelerating before our very eyes...
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:30:01 EDT
FutureMon posted : Chances are the encryption algorythm will have been designed by the NSA. :)

- FM

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:09:10 EDT
Kilroy posted : What is the government going to do when we finally secure the Internet with completely encrypted traffic?

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:24:48 EDT
KodiacZiller posted :
said by Name Game:
said by badjoe:
On February 27, 2000, "60 Minutes" TV broadcast was about a top-secret Global Surveillance Network is called Echelon, and it's run by the National Security Agency and four English-speaking allies: Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.

Transcript »cryptome.org/echelon-60min.htm

The New York Times on February 23, 2000 »www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/···spy.html

But don't make it out to what it is not.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

Echelon was the old system done in the 80's mostly. It basically sucked in all international calls via satellite then performed keyword searches. Nowadays satellites aren't around much, everything is fiber optic, thus the need for a new system.
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:02:25 EDT
Name Game posted :
said by badjoe:
On February 27, 2000, "60 Minutes" TV broadcast was about a top-secret Global Surveillance Network is called Echelon, and it's run by the National Security Agency and four English-speaking allies: Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.

Transcript »cryptome.org/echelon-60min.htm

The New York Times on February 23, 2000 »www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/···spy.html

But don't make it out to what it is not.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:48:11 EDT
badjoe posted : On February 27, 2000, "60 Minutes" TV broadcast was about a top-secret Global Surveillance Network is called Echelon, and it's run by the National Security Agency and four English-speaking allies: Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.

Transcript »cryptome.org/echelon-60min.htm

The New York Times on February 23, 2000 »www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/···spy.html
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Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:58:24 EDT
Name Game posted : What are you doing about it ?

 

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:41:54 EDT
Dude111 posted : I dont have to read it to know whats been going on :(

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:21:47 EDT
Blackbird posted : I would have to say Binney has described it rather well...

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:02:57 EDT
chachazz posted : Watch the Democracy Now videos "National Security Agency Whistleblower William Binney on Growing State Surveillance".

This interview is part of a 5-part special on state surveillance.
»www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/e···_william
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Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:52:22 EDT
jadinolf posted : Damn you mom. :(

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:51:31 EDT
sbconslt posted : It pertains to domestic wiretapping. The EFF's case page here »www.eff.org/cases/jewel

Re: Things Mom never told us about NSA

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:40:17 EDT
StuartMW posted : Without reading the article I bet it involves rubber gloves and bending over :(
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Things Mom never told us about NSA

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:23:25 EDT
Name Game posted : Wondering what the NSA has been doing to Americans for the last decade? Read this sworn statement by William Binney:
»www.eff.org/sites/default/files/···tion.pdf

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