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Jailbreak, Jailbreak, Jailbreak

No need to pay for crap you already pay for. Free for jailbroken phones.

Pirate515
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said by exocet_cm:

No need to pay for crap you already pay for. Free for jailbroken phones.

If I remember it correctly, AT&T was cracking down on those who were tethering without paying for the "privilege", even those on tiered plans. I think most of these were people with jailbroken iPhones. Chances are that they will probably do the same for FaceTime over 3G if they force people to pay for this "privilege" as well.

exocet_cm
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said by Pirate515:

said by exocet_cm:

No need to pay for crap you already pay for. Free for jailbroken phones.

If I remember it correctly, AT&T was cracking down on those who were tethering without paying for the "privilege", even those on tiered plans. I think most of these were people with jailbroken iPhones. Chances are that they will probably do the same for FaceTime over 3G if they force people to pay for this "privilege" as well.

If it gets used a lot then AT&T takes notice. The occasional user is overlooked.

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said by exocet_cm:

If it gets used a lot then AT&T takes notice. The occasional user is overlooked.

I thought that they were looking for specific data patterns generated by common "workarounds" available for jailbroken phones, not only high data usage. As far as high data usage goes, they now cap those who are still on unlimited plans (after 3 GB I believe).

ieolus
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They do what? How do they cap an unlimited plan?

Morac
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said by ieolus:

They do what? How do they cap an unlimited plan?

By slowing down speeds to 2G speeds; making your unlimited data over 3 GB unusable.

ieolus
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I did not know that. Lovely.

Jerm
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»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· aEQzTcW0


Check out the Google Maps example 5 minutes into the video.

That is the best "what this means to you" example of throttle/non-throttle I have seen.
BiggA
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Yup. And they don't crack down on the users who have tiered plans.
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Of course, that would only matter if I actually used Facetime...
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I would LOVE to see them admit that they know that the data being used by the user is in fact FaceTime data. There's other things people have on a JB iPhone as well which is the ability to download more than the 20mb data limit from iTunes.

Still don't see why AT&T is thinking about pulling this crap.. people are already being charged by the byte.. there is ABSOLUTELY no need for them to "charge" for that "privilege" since data is data.

If congress isn't asleep at the wheel, they will put an end to this type of practice/behavior. Then again, the government is king of applying multiple taxes to the same dollar... basically, we're fu_ked until the people vote people out.
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said by Morac:

said by ieolus:

They do what? How do they cap an unlimited plan?

By slowing down speeds to 2G speeds; making your unlimited data over 3 GB unusable.

Correct.. they throttle speeds to 2G, which is very funny because they STILL claim that it's "unlimited 3G speeds, we're just slowing you down".. well, I know they love to play with the term "unlimited" but now apparently they're trying to redefine what "3G" is too.. not surprised since they all have already redefined what 4G is.

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said by Pirate515:

said by exocet_cm:

No need to pay for crap you already pay for. Free for jailbroken phones.

If I remember it correctly, AT&T was cracking down on those who were tethering without paying for the "privilege", even those on tiered plans. I think most of these were people with jailbroken iPhones. Chances are that they will probably do the same for FaceTime over 3G if they force people to pay for this "privilege" as well.

Depends on how you do it. PDAnet and Mywi can mask thPe APN. If you use TetherMe it tricks it into enabling the native tethering app, AT&T is none the wiser.

cdru
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said by fiberguy2:

Correct.. they throttle speeds to 2G, which is very funny because they STILL claim that it's "unlimited 3G speeds, we're just slowing you down".. well, I know they love to play with the term "unlimited" but now apparently they're trying to redefine what "3G" is too.. not surprised since they all have already redefined what 4G is.

Do they actually bump your connection down to 2G? Or do they leave it 3G between you and the tower and then throttle you down before leaving their network for the internet in general?

Once upon a time many moons ago, when I had Verizon 1.5 and 3mbit DSL, it wasn't uncommon during peak times for the DSLAM's DS3's backhaul to become saturated. While the connection between you and the CO remained the full speed you were provisioned at, you couldn't actually use it all. Yet the ISP could say that you are connected faster then cable and didn't suffer from congestion like you did on cable's shared node.

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said by cdru:

said by fiberguy2:

Correct.. they throttle speeds to 2G, which is very funny because they STILL claim that it's "unlimited 3G speeds, we're just slowing you down".. well, I know they love to play with the term "unlimited" but now apparently they're trying to redefine what "3G" is too.. not surprised since they all have already redefined what 4G is.

Do they actually bump your connection down to 2G? Or do they leave it 3G between you and the tower and then throttle you down before leaving their network for the internet in general?

You'll still have a 3G connection; they will just throttle you down to 2G speeds until the next billing cycle.

»www.att.com/esupport/dat ··· 0000000U
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It's actually about 250kbps, which is usually well above what EDGE can do, although properly set up (not most of AT&T's EDGE network) EDGE is about 190kbps.