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Wolfie00
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Re: [Serious] The most honest three and a half minutes of televi

said by Robert:

That's because a very small percentage of Americans (under 20%) do not have insurance, so pushing for healthcare reform, for many Americans isn't at the top of their list.

For the 80% that has insurance, we have no problem.

I don't want to digress this thread into what is in itself obviously a huge topic, but I will just make this one simple statement about health care. As big as the moral issues and the ER abuses and cost issues are that are a consequence of the uninsured, that is nowhere near the entire problem. The systemic inability to control costs, the ongoing bankruptcies of people who are insured (or thought they were -- medical costs are the single largest cause of personal bankruptcies in the US, and most of those people had insurance), and the insidious intrusion of insurance bureaucracy between doctor and patient -- these are huge problems that affect virtually everyone. Americans often don't see this or fully appreciate how deeply it affects them because they generally have a very poor understanding of how health care works in other countries.

urbanriot
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said by Wolfie00:

The systemic inability to control costs

It's a good thing that doctors in Canada work at a socialist wage and accept pigs and eggs as payment, so costs will never go up for those paying for their services.

Gone
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said by urbanriot:

It's a good thing that doctors in Canada work at a socialist wage and accept pigs and eggs as payment, so costs will never go up for those paying for their services.

If you want to see a country that truly pays a "socialist wage" to doctors, look at the UK. Comparatively speaking, they work for peanuts over there.

Robert
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Wolfie, totally agree. But to say that costs is an issue only seen in the U.S. is a pretty far stretch. Other countries are controlling costs by limiting services, which is something I wouldn't want to see in this country.

elwoodblues
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said by urbanriot:

said by Wolfie00:

The systemic inability to control costs

It's a good thing that doctors in Canada work at a socialist wage and accept pigs and eggs as payment, so costs will never go up for those paying for their services.

You forgot the Cows. They take cows too.