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bjf123
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iMac Problem

I've got an iMac that is starting to freeze up. Over the last few days, I've had to hold the power button to shut it down when everything froze. Even Force Quit would freeze. This has happened every day this week. The system is probably 4 or 5 years old and had a new hard drive installed earlier this year. I've repaired permissions and verified the disk and found no problems. Any ideas?
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tmpchaos
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Pull and re-seat the ram?



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reply to bjf123
FWIW, I initially installed Lion right over Snow Leopard on 2 iMacs. Later on, after experiencing some issues, I did a fresh install of Lion, and the OS worked a lot better.

You could also try running OnyX. Don't know if it will help with your issue. It may also freeze up while running it. However, if you want to give it a shot:

»www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx
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bjf123
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I've installed OnyX and run a number of diagnostics and maintenance tasks and no problems were reported. I also cleaned all the caches. I'll try reseating the RAM later today when I've finished working.

I did upgrade to Lion right over Snow Leopard. While I know that a clean install is always better, I really don't want to spend a day reinstalling all my software assuming I can find the original media, restoring my music to iTunes, and photos to iPhoto.
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You now have the perfect excuse to buy a new Macbook Pro with retina display.
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bjf123
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said by bjf123:

I've got an iMac that is starting to freeze up. Over the last few days, I've had to hold the power button to shut it down when everything froze. Even Force Quit would freeze. This has happened every day this week. The system is probably 4 or 5 years old and had a new hard drive installed earlier this year. I've repaired permissions and verified the disk and found no problems. Any ideas?

Not sure of the max ram for your model iMac but 3 gigs for a Nix system like Lion - I would consider marginal. Your system may be swapping badly and appearing to freeze.

I have 16 gigs on my iMac and will be pushing that to 32 in the near future.
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bjf123
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According to the specs, the max RAM for my iMac is 4GB. There are only two slots and each can only have a 2GB stick.
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lordpuffer
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You can also try starting up in Safe Mode. That resets a few things:

»support.apple.com/kb/HT1455
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Thinkdiff
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said by dellsweig:

Not sure of the max ram for your model iMac but 3 gigs for a Nix system like Lion - I would consider marginal. Your system may be swapping badly and appearing to freeze.

I have 16 gigs on my iMac and will be pushing that to 32 in the near future.

Highly, highly doubt this. I've pushed my machines hard in the past with less RAM. The UI rarely freezes up due to swapping.

On Linux, yes. Happens all the time. Not so much on OS X.
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Thinkdiff
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What graphics card does your iMac have?

I have a slightly older iMac that would randomly freeze up as well. Turns out some of the new ATI drivers Apple has been using in 10.6.x and 10.7.x really suck.

I reverted back to the older drivers - no more freezing.
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bjf123
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According to the system info, it's an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro with 256MB of VRAM.



Thinkdiff
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Yep. That's the one.

You could give this a whirl and see if it works:
»discussions.apple.com/thread/238···tstart=0

The thread is quite long. People on 10.7.4 are reporting this fix still works, but it may need to be applied twice (with a restart in between) in order to full take effect.
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bjf123
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I've installed the old drivers. We'll see what happens.



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I have probably the same iMac. I bought it in January 2008. I had the hard drive replaced a few months ago at my local Apple Store, I have 4GB of ram in mine. Currently I have no problems whatsoever but who knows. I have Lion installed as an upgrade to Snow Leopard as well. I am very interested in you finding a solution.
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bjf123
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Well, I just had to hold down the power button to force a reboot on my iMac. The screen was again frozen. This is getting annoying.
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said by bjf123:

Well, I just had to hold down the power button to force a reboot on my iMac. The screen was again frozen. This is getting annoying.

boot to the CD, zero out the drive, then install the OS again. Sounds like you got something in the OS locking everything down. The only time my old iMac ever locked up was when I was using Transmission for torrenting and I had to many peers and seeds open.


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I had the same issue a while ago. I did a disk repair, and that fixed it.

»www.apple.com/osx/recovery/

EDIT: The link says Mountain Lion, but it is the same for Lion.
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reply to bjf123
A memory or video memory problem would give you the obnoxious black restart screen... lock up like this are IO related. I agree with folks who suggest its your hard drive.
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jrs8084
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reply to bjf123
Freezing is often hardware. RAM is the usual culprit, although bad Mobos and video cards can do the same. (that era iMacs weren't as we'll known for that)

It could be even something as simple as an old wired mouse with fraying wires-saw that cause a freeze on more than one Mac.


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