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inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
reply to 93388818

Re: actually, it has a name

so if you didn't have unlimited data you'd be overpaying for data with the exception of that last month.


93388818
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join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX
reply to inteller
said by inteller:

wow, so even the 20Gb plan with 10 smartphones on it is not as good as 10 people each getting a $45 unlimited plan from Straight Talk.

Absolutely RIDICULOUS! What value does ATT even offer?

IMO AT&T probably doesn't see ST as a legitimate threat to their mobility business.
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"To be sincere, you don't have to know anything, you just say whatever makes you feel good and spin and smug circles in your tiny fucked up little head, happy as long as you're true to yourself. In other words, Sincerity is bullshit!" -Penn Jillette


93388818
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Dallas, TX
reply to inteller
said by inteller:

so if you didn't have unlimited data you'd be overpaying for data with the exception of that last month.

irrelevant since I do have unlimited data


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
reply to 93388818
yeah, apparently they've got the sucker market sewn up.
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93388818
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join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX
I'm sure everyone is thrilled you love your straight talk service.


buddahbless

join:2005-03-21
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reply to 93388818
To your post below... keep gloating, Its Only Irrelevant until ATT decides to "kick the pan" even more, change there TOS and drop your 5GB down to 2GB in the near to dear future and stick you with overages or a ridiculous throttle if your a remaining "unlimited" customer. ( don't think for a moment it won't happen.)


93388818
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join:2000-03-14
Dallas, TX
If that happens I'll switch to a plan that makes sense for me


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
reply to buddahbless
what I can't figure out is why would a person want to give a company twice as much money to them as they should be paying? Don't people like to SAVE money?
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Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
reply to MovieLover76
said by MovieLover76:

I'm sure Verizon would have rather gone the throttling route, as it seems to anger less customers and they do it on their 3G network

They don't "throttle" their 3G network. All they are doing is using a fair queuing algorithm during times of congestion that assigns less resources on the forward link to heavy data users. If the EVDO channel/sector you're on isn't congested you won't see any noticeable impact whatsoever.

I use >5GB on a regular basis and the only impact I've seen from this supposed "throttling" is the occasional slowdown to 40kbit/s to 80kbit/s. I've never seen one of these slowdowns last more than a minute or two; I would attribute them to other users loading webpages/downloading files.

Personally I don't see a problem with what Verizon is doing. Someone who sparingly uses their phone gets faster webpage loads and I can consume all the bandwidth I want without impacting them.

Cobra11M

join:2010-12-23
Mineral Wells, TX
reply to 93388818
said by 93388818:

said by inteller:

wow, so even the 20Gb plan with 10 smartphones on it is not as good as 10 people each getting a $45 unlimited plan from Straight Talk.

Absolutely RIDICULOUS! What value does ATT even offer?

IMO AT&T probably doesn't see ST as a legitimate threat to their mobility business.

AT&T isnt worried about ST because their making money from wally world on it.. walmart pays big time for it.. that and most people wont change even if it does save them money and still rides on at&t's and t-mobiles towers..

that being said like some others, I have AT&T since 2001 coverage is good.. although I dont like what they do.

im not sure i would use ST but thats just me, id rather take my iphone 4 to t-mobile when the contract is done which is next month


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
no, Wal-mart subsidizes very little of the ST price because you can get the same service with NET10 for $50 which is still Tracfone but no wal-mart involvement.

ST and NET10 reflect the actual price you pay for service if you strip away all of the egregious overhead AT&Fee must maintain for stupid people.

Basically for using the utility of ATT towers you can pay the smart people price or the stupid people price. Fancy website, stupid little apps that count your buckets of data, retarded CSRs...that's what your $90 a mo pays for.

Also, why would you want to take your iPhone to T-Mo when it won't work properly on the right bands? It would have to be pretty cheap for me to put up with EDGE speeds.
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93388818
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I think I see the light now. Anyone who doesn't agree with inteller See Profile is "stupid".


inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
no just anyone who pays double for their phone service and then bitches when ATT comes out with stupid pricing plans like this.
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etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1
reply to 93388818
said by 93388818:

said by inteller:

wow, so even the 20Gb plan with 10 smartphones on it is not as good as 10 people each getting a $45 unlimited plan from Straight Talk.

Absolutely RIDICULOUS! What value does ATT even offer?

Coverage? LTE? The latest and greatest handsets?

That is a sarcasm right?

BTW didn't you used to or currently work for AT&T?

dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL
reply to 93388818
You can get every one of those phones outside of ATT. You need to wake up and realize that your situation does not = anything of reality.


93388818
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Dallas, TX
agreed. the contract is on the service, not the handset. anyone can buy a compatible handset and drop their AT&T SIM in it and use their AT&T service


inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
now THAT's not reality and you know it. The most typical scenario ATT wants you to succumb to is buying one of their subsidized handsets at the same time you take service. WHY ON EARTH would someone who already has a handset go and buy ATTs ridiculously expensive service when they are already free from the contract shackles to go with many other cheaper alternatives. You would have to have a frontal lobotomy to do such a stupid thing.
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millerja01a

join:2005-10-03
Durham, NC
reply to 93388818
Corona,
It's simple market dynamics. AT&T has created a clear price vacuum that ST and others are filling. PPL will compare and vote with their wallets.

Coverage is important however LTE isn't. The analogy is driving a supercar on a quarter-mile road. Sure you can fast as hell but you lack lots of road. Speed is irrelevant then.

Unlimited data is going away sooner rather than later.

I'm moving to ST when my contract is up.

As to the availability of premium phones, I don't need the latest and greatest every year. I see smartphones like computers. Swap them out every 3 to 5 years as the tech makes greater jumps in specs and features.

If you really want to save, stay 1 gen behind the current gen using the 3-5yr period. Ebay is your friend. No contract, modern phone plus XDA developers and you can stretch that $300-$500 for several years, paying less per month.

The goal is to maximize the value of every dollar spent.

bka591959

join:2012-06-20
Colorado Springs, CO
reply to dfxmatt
Re: "Pay more than before Plan"
I hope you don't mind if I use that when explaining these plans to family and friends.


93388818
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reply to inteller
said by inteller:

now THAT's not reality and you know it. The most typical scenario ATT wants you to succumb to is buying one of their subsidized handsets at the same time you take service. WHY ON EARTH would someone who already has a handset go and buy ATTs ridiculously expensive service when they are already free from the contract shackles to go with many other cheaper alternatives. You would have to have a frontal lobotomy to do such a stupid thing.

Hardly. When I wanted the Google Nexus One, I went direct to google and bought it. Then I dropped my AT&T SIM in it and went along my merry way.

I think it's great you love your Straight talk service. But you don't see me or anyone else calling you names because of it.
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"To be sincere, you don't have to know anything, you just say whatever makes you feel good and spin and smug circles in your tiny fucked up little head, happy as long as you're true to yourself. In other words, Sincerity is bullshit!" -Penn Jillette


93388818
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reply to etaadmin
not sarcasm at all. i have great coverage in my area and great LTE speeds. i am also using a very recently released handset.


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
reply to 93388818
so not only did you pay out the nose for your phone, you continue to pay out the nose for your service. wow dude.

also, I wouldn't consider the Nexus One a recent phone...that's over 2 years old.
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93388818
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Dallas, TX
said by inteller:

so not only did you pay out the nose for your phone, you continue to pay out the nose for your service. wow dude.

also, I wouldn't consider the Nexus One a recent phone...that's over 2 years old.

I got it the day it came out. I was using that as an example.
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"To be sincere, you don't have to know anything, you just say whatever makes you feel good and spin and smug circles in your tiny fucked up little head, happy as long as you're true to yourself. In other words, Sincerity is bullshit!" -Penn Jillette


skeechan
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reply to 93388818
I have AT&T LTE in my area and it is dog slow.


gballer

@reyrey.net
reply to 93388818
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you think you have unlimited data!!


gballer

@reyrey.net
reply to 93388818
After 2 yrs on that rape contract we will pay less buying the phone outright..

Some people just fail at math.


gballer

@reyrey.net
reply to 93388818
at&t cheapest plan = $109 a month with 3gig data and unlimited texting
$200 for Galaxy S3 = $2840 over 2 years

ST unlimited $50 a month
$600 for Galaxy S3 = $1800 over 2 years

Since ST uses at&t same coverage.. So yeah I suppose if LTE is worth $1000+ more.

wingrider01

join:2006-07-25
Saint Louis, MO
reply to 93388818
inteller - not correct, he would be paying the same, he exceeds the 300mb plan all the time, the next plan up is 3GB at you guessed it - 30.00 a month, in jun he would have paid an overage charge


jazzy112

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reply to 93388818
the problem nobody realizes is, not a single one of these carriers is truly nationwide. If you get one of these ST or heaven forbid Boost phones, you have ZERO roaming capability. (no service when not on verizons infrastructure (ST) or no service when not on Sprint's infrastructure-boost) This is fine for the people who just want a longer range cordless phone, I need that roaming and where I am from, AT&T has a better service. When I was in St. Louis the AT&T LTE service slaughtered Verizon's LTE offerings in a rural area with far less users.