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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Watching this closely.

Good Luck, Kansas City Folks!


moddestmike

join:2009-01-26
Houston, TX

I sincerely hope its also an announcement to expand into other markets. I live in the 4th largest city in the USA yet we can't get ANY fiber access inside of Houston. As far as I know only Conroe and Texas City have access to fiber (FIOS). There was a small fiber provider years back but they were driven out of business by bureaucratic bs from ATT, Comcast and Verizon.



somms

join:2003-07-28
Salt Lake City, UT

said by moddestmike:

I sincerely hope its also an announcement to expand into other markets. I live in the 4th largest city in the USA yet we can't get ANY fiber access inside of Houston. As far as I know only Conroe and Texas City have access to fiber (FIOS). There was a small fiber provider years back but they were driven out of business by bureaucratic bs from ATT, Comcast and Verizon.

FIOS is so far removed from true muni FTTP or FTTH installs it isn't even funny...

Greedy incumbent Verizon FIOS has contracts, non-symmetrical speeds that don't come close to 1Gbps and no further roll-outs!


moddestmike

join:2009-01-26
Houston, TX

I understand but that's as close to "fiber" as we have. I had the pleasure of visiting my gf in NorCal and she has Sonic as her provider. I must say it makes me jealous.



jmad980

join:2012-06-16
Reviews:
·HughesNet Satell..

said by moddestmike:

I understand but that's as close to "fiber" as we have. I had the pleasure of visiting my gf in NorCal and she has Sonic as her provider. I must say it makes me jealous.

I just wish I had any provider, sat is incredibly painful to use.

Even California has places small and isolated enough that nobody cares about them :\

osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

reply to moddestmike
There's no FiOS in the Houston area, only some small pockets in the suburbs of Dallas.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1

reply to KrK
1000 Mbps, and 99% of the users wont use more than 5Mbps at any given point of the day. LMAO.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to somms

quote:
FIOS is so far removed from true muni FTTP or FTTH installs it isn't even funny...

Greedy incumbent Verizon FIOS has contracts, non-symmetrical speeds that don't come close to 1Gbps and no further roll-outs!
They dont require contracts, I have 35/35Mbps, and they offer 300Mbps, a speed that less then 1% of the population truly needs. So, thats 3 Strikes, next batter.


somms

join:2003-07-28
Salt Lake City, UT

said by ITALIAN926:

quote:
FIOS is so far removed from true muni FTTP or FTTH installs it isn't even funny...

Greedy incumbent Verizon FIOS has contracts, non-symmetrical speeds that don't come close to 1Gbps and no further roll-outs!
They dont require contracts, I have 35/35Mbps, and they offer 300Mbps, a speed that less then 1% of the population truly needs. So, thats 3 Strikes, next batter.

»my.verizon.com/micro/Policies/TO···n=bundle

FIOS BUNDLE CUSTOMER AGREEMENT
THIS AGREEMENT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING
YOUR RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS AND VERIZON'S.
PLEASE REVIEW IT CAREFULLY


TERMINATION OF SERVICE; EARLY TERMINATION FEES

A.After the Minimum Term, you will no longer receive the FiOS Bundle discounted rates for the Services and, unless otherwise agreed to or other discounts are made available by Verizon, your Services will automatically convert to existing higher, non-discounted month-to-month rates for the Services.

B.AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE WILL APPLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO TERMINATE ALL OF THE SERVICES OR IF YOU CANCEL A SERVICE THAT IS PART OF THE FIOS BUNDLE BEFORE COMPLETING YOUR MINIMUM TERM, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THIS AGREEMENT.

Early Termination Fe

FiOS DP
$119

FiOS TP
$179


May want to review your TOS. Sure smells like a contract with a ETF to me straight off Verizon FIOS website!

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to ITALIAN926
They offer 1000/1000, but they have 100/100 and lower too. It will be wonderful for businesses. Once I get out of college I am making the 30 minute move and buying dat 1000/1000 fiber.



somms

join:2003-07-28
Salt Lake City, UT

said by me1212:

They offer 1000/1000, but they have 100/100 and lower too. It will be wonderful for businesses. Once I get out of college I am making the 30 minute move and buying dat 1000/1000 fiber.

I can only hope the Google 1Gbps fiber launch is on the cheap side and helps to lower the $300/month my ISP currently charges for 1Gbps service!

But wait...99.999% only need 1Mbps max with contracts and ETFs!

Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06

reply to ITALIAN926
Better than the cable "broadband" that expects that you only use kb/s.


me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to somms
the 100/100 will be $50 and the 1000 will be $100.



JasonOD

@comcast.net

reply to moddestmike
Too bad residential Houston can't capture some of the breathtaking infrastructure growth going on in the downtown area. Energy firms with their trading floors are fueling some incredible fiber and bandwidth expansions. Those downtown tunnels have become network gold allowing some of the fastest fiber deployments in the world.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1

reply to somms
Contracts are optional


sandman_1

join:2011-04-23
11111

reply to ITALIAN926
You mad brah?


davidhoffman
Premium
join:2009-11-19
Warner Robins, GA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom
·AT&T Southeast
·Verizon Wireless..

reply to moddestmike
Expansion into other markets is not a priority. The purpose of the project is to allow Google's frustrated web application developers the opportunity to try out applications that require symmetrical very high speed internet connections in a community with a relatively large population. Massive simultaneous use, by households and businesses, of multiple applications, including cloud based applications, is to be tested. What happens if the vast majority of a community has affordable access to very high speed symmetrical internet connections without monthly caps? What applications prove useful? What applications are not useful? Are there useful applications that are very valuable, but are only used sporadically, like during election season or certain holidays? Are there extremely valuable applications that are only used during large scale natural or man-made disasters? How do different socioeconomic groups use the service? How does that use impact their lives? How do those impacts effect the community at large?

The goal is to allow for the creation and refinement of applications, not to become a national ISP. They only did this project because too many existing ISPs think the far future means only thinking about what will go into the next annual report, and they had no where in the USA to adequately test their developers ideas. If anything they would only seek to expand outward from the Kansas City area, as rural communities surrounding KC have shown intense interest in creating their own Gigabit networks by connecting to the Kansas City project. Many small cities in Kansas and Missouri apparently have offered to do enormous amounts of preparation work, at their expense, to get a similar project in their community. That would be an interesting addition to the testing environment. What happens when the rural population, in the same general area, has the same internet access speeds and costs as the metropolitan area does?

The goal is to show the ISPs and politicians what is possible if you think about implementing a truly connected nation. It is designed to encourage others to quit thinking of the FCC's 4Mbps adequate internet access speed, as some kind of real progress.


Cobra11M

join:2010-12-23

said by davidhoffman:

Expansion into other markets is not a priority. The purpose of the project is to allow Google's frustrated web application developers the opportunity to try out applications that require symmetrical very high speed internet connections in a community with a relatively large population. Massive simultaneous use, by households and businesses, of multiple applications, including cloud based applications, is to be tested. What happens if the vast majority of a community has affordable access to very high speed symmetrical internet connections without monthly caps? What applications prove useful? What applications are not useful? Are there useful applications that are very valuable, but are only used sporadically, like during election season or certain holidays? Are there extremely valuable applications that are only used during large scale natural or man-made disasters? How do different socioeconomic groups use the service? How does that use impact their lives? How do those impacts effect the community at large?

The goal is to allow for the creation and refinement of applications, not to become a national ISP. They only did this project because too many existing ISPs think the far future means only thinking about what will go into the next annual report, and they had no where in the USA to adequately test their developers ideas. If anything they would only seek to expand outward from the Kansas City area, as rural communities surrounding KC have shown intense interest in creating their own Gigabit networks by connecting to the Kansas City project. Many small cities in Kansas and Missouri apparently have offered to do enormous amounts of preparation work, at their expense, to get a similar project in their community. That would be an interesting addition to the testing environment. What happens when the rural population, in the same general area, has the same internet access speeds and costs as the metropolitan area does?

The goal is to show the ISPs and politicians what is possible if you think about implementing a truly connected nation. It is designed to encourage others to quit thinking of the FCC's 4Mbps adequate internet access speed, as some kind of real progress.

agreed on top of that, to show ISP's that their is a need for this type of speed and that their is a use from it.. ISP's think their isnt a need and so what happens...

no more capital investment, caps, and prices goes up due to not seeing anymore *Need* to upgrade..

Will google try other citys? maybe more than likely no.. but they sure dont want to become a nationwide isp and we all can see that

If you can show the FCC and the goverment that their is a need for this then they will push the companies to do better.. as it stands the companies have no reason to upgrade anything because no one is watching what they are doing


tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to somms

said by somms:

.... Sure smells like a contract with a ETF to me straight.....

Your fiber has an EFT too. just in a different form.
If enough people discontinue early, the muni collapses and your locality pays the price either directly or as a hit on their bonding authority. Which hurts not only those that wanted fiber, but both those that didn't want it or couldn't afford it.

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

2 edits

reply to Cobra11M

quote:
agreed on top of that, to show ISP's that their is a need for this type of speed and that their is a use from it.. ISP's think their isnt a need and so what happens...
Well, lets start small, start with me. For what reasons do the bulk of internet users need better than 100Mbps? Lord knows by reading posts from computer geeks on this site, it seems like there's demand. Considering that you can stream Netflix without buffering, in HD, with just 5 Mbps, a 100Mbps connection is complete overkill for any household.

So tell me, whats the emergency for Gbps ? Im talking residential usage here.

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