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McBrain
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Re: In need of an upgrade, requesting advice and suggestions.

Yeah, I was just looking around on their site and found the i5 3750k for less than $200: »www.microcenter.com/single_produ···=0388577

If I went with it I would definitely go with the Z77 mobo...thing is I am having to learn all this stuff as I go...

The HIS card was basically the first one I saw, I would probably go with Sapphire, which is like 10 bucks more.

And I'll definitely search Microcenter more, buying a CPU/Mobo combo at a $100 discount would be pretty nice. Even if I couldn't get up there myself to pick it up, it would be more than enough to pay a buddy to drive it down or meet me half way.
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Krisnatharok
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Check out page 3 (top left-hand side) and page 27: »viewer.zmags.com/publication/325···9b0e8/27


demir
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said by McBrain:

Naw, that's the list.

Sorry I didn't respond, I was talking to a buddy about what I could do differently.

He's convincing me to ditch the SSD. His reasoning is that my concern isn't how fast my screens load, but how well my rig performs in game. Which is a very valid point.

He also made the suggestion that I upgrade only my GPU at first to see if that would give me the performance I want...but I'm pretty sure that if I upgraded GPU/PSUs that the rest of my machine would only hold things back. So I'm thinking that I should go with GPU/PSU/CPU/MOBO upgrades all at once.

Anyway, if you could take a look at things, Kris, it'd be much appreciated.

The products I have linked are arbitrary for price reference. The only thing I will potentially buy that's not brand new is the video card. Unless you guys tell me a refurb is a bad idea.

In my opinion, your buddy NAILED it. For a gamer on a budget, the SSD is the first thing I'd ditch to save cash.

Put any extra $ into the video card until you can't spend anymore or until you have the best card possible. If you have enough after that, then purchase the SSD.

Kris already suggested the mid range CPU -- which I also think is a good idea --- get an i5 if you can.


McBrain
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Yeah, I've since ditched the SSD...maybe it'll be a birthday gift to myself or something later this fall.

Going with CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/PSU for now. I'd like to stay under $600 if I could, like I said, I'm learning all this as I go and am trying to avoid getting hosed because of lack of knowledge.



Krisnatharok
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FWIW there is an Agility 3 120 GB SSD on Shellshocker now for $70.

»www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShoc···232012_1

Have you told us what your budget is again? Because I am confused that you initially said $800 and now want it down around $475...
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McBrain
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Well, I started at $800. Then realized that I WANT a SSD, but I don't NEED one.

So, the budget is $600 as of now. I've come up with a few different builds that come in under that, so I'm pretty sure I can get what I need with $600.

The $475 was basically seeing what the cheapest I could put an Itel system together for.

Regardless what CPU I chose, I am fully expecting $550+...Intel will be a little more I'm sure, but I probably won't overclock it, where I would definitely be overclocking the AMD.
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Krisnatharok
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If you are sure you aren't going to OC then get one of the non-K CPU's.

At this price I'd still grab one of those SSDs.



McBrain
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I'll OC if I've got to. I mean if I can get what I want to get out of a non-K series CPU, then I'll have no need to. But if I can't then I don't mind upgrading to a K and overclocking to get the performance I want, 60 FPS on Ultra settings. If I can get those framerates with an AMD, then I'd go that route, as it is the cheaper of the two companies. Basically I want the best bang for my buck, 60 FPS on Ultra. Anything in excess of that will be wasted money because I don't edit or anything else like that.

I'm just sick of fluctuating between 20-40 FPS on settings between "Fair" and "Good", you know? And in order to get the performance I get now I turn off sunshafts, particle density is on low, use 4x antriscopic or whatever, low view distance, low ground clutter, etc. I know wow is cartoony, but the way I play it currently, it's worse than my kid's comics...and he mostly reads Smurfs.
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Krisnatharok
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Any of the Ivy Bridge i5's will easily max out on ultra.



McBrain
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said by Krisnatharok:

Any of the Ivy Bridge i5's will easily max out on ultra.

Right, but would an OC'ed Phenom II?

I've been catching som heat from the old lady about a "new computer" even though she has no idea of the specifics, including price. Hence why my budget has declined slightly. Without saying I want a "budget build", I want just about what the minimum is to run on max settings. I'm not too concerned with "future proofing" orwhatever, it's computer, and I'll need another one soon enough no matter what get.
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Krisnatharok
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An OC'd Phenom II should perform on par with the newest i3's, if what I have been reading about gaming CPUs is correct. If you are willing to OC the Phenom, it's a toss-up between that and the i3's, although any i5 is a clear winner with quad Intel cores.

Remember CPU architecture is way more important than clock-speed or number of cores (except at extremes). Intel beats the pants of AMD in that department, regardless of GHz.
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McBrain
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Since you put it that way, it definitely sounds like an i5 CPU/Mobo combo from Micro Center will be the best bang for the buck. Surely I can get a good processor and Mobo combo for around $250. That leaves me ~$350 for GPU, PSU, and ram. I'm happy with that. I'll probably end up going with a Radeon 6870 GPU and a 450-500w power supply. I like the performance of nVidia GPUs, but after researching them, they absolutely suck tons and tons of power.

I'm using my phone to post this, I'm waiting to pick up the wife from surgery, so I can't really do much research and link posting. But this is what I'm thinking right now; i5 Ivy Bridge (3750K), decent Mobo (prefer ASUS, don't need Crossfire), 450-500w 80 Plus Bronze PSU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Radeon HD 6870 GPU. All for around $550. I'm going to end up getting a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ pretty soon(like this week) so I'm dropping fan off the list as far as budgeting is concerned.

People at real computers can you linky for me? I have a buddy in Norfolk, so I'm tentatively open to a CPU/Mobo bundle from Micro Center.
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said by McBrain:

Since you put it that way, it definitely sounds like an i5 CPU/Mobo combo from Micro Center will be the best bang for the buck. Surely I can get a good processor and Mobo combo for around $250. That leaves me ~$350 for GPU, PSU, and ram. I'm happy with that. I'll probably end up going with a Radeon 6870 GPU and a 450-500w power supply. I like the performance of nVidia GPUs, but after researching them, they absolutely suck tons and tons of power.

I'm using my phone to post this, I'm waiting to pick up the wife from surgery, so I can't really do much research and link posting. But this is what I'm thinking right now; i5 Ivy Bridge (3750K), decent Mobo (prefer ASUS, don't need Crossfire), 450-500w 80 Plus Bronze PSU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Radeon HD 6870 GPU. All for around $550. I'm going to end up getting a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ pretty soon(like this week) so I'm dropping fan off the list as far as budgeting is concerned.

People at real computers can you linky for me? I have a buddy in Norfolk, so I'm tentatively open to a CPU/Mobo bundle from Micro Center.

McBrain, make sure that Coolermaster Hyper 212 will fit your case and not block your 4th slot of RAM. Some setups will require low profile RAM also.

That cooler is absolutely massive. Even the mid tower case I just ordered, you cannot run a Hyper 212 without removing the side fan. That's why I opted to stick with my TX3 92mm instead. Just a tad bit smaller and no worries about blocking my RAM slots.


Krisnatharok
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The 212 is real slick in that the metal retainers that hold the fan to the heatsink are easily movable. I just build an 990X + Phenom II X6 + Hyper 212 + 4 ram dimms in a HAF 912, and just pushed up the fan on the 21 by about half an inch. The ram slots would have to be another inch closer to the CPU socket to be a real issue.
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Krisnatharok
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reply to McBrain

The GPUs nowadays use about the same amount of power AFAIK. Don't let that be the deciding factor.



McBrain
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Touché. What is the nVidia equivalent of the 6870? somewhere around a GTX 550? If that's the case I should go with a 560ti to ease my power concerns, right?

I think I may just be getting cold feet about making a decision on what combo of parts to buy. A lot of variables make me not confident in making a good decision. I probably would be 100% satisfied with any of the potential builds I've made, I'm just letting the minute details bug me out.

It'd be easier if I didn't live in bum-fuck redneckville. There isn't a computer store in my town, and the closest "reputable" place is Best Buy, an hour away. They do have price matching, but it doesn't include bundling and can only be used on items at "local" retailers, and I'm pretty sure Micro Center in Fairfax isn't local.
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