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Mojo 77

@apexcovantage.com
reply to FFH

Re: Struggling?? Except for Frontier - not true

How about you actually read the report before you mindlessly jump to the defense of your favorite corporations, Mitt? The report clearly shows ISPs are struggling at peak times to deliver advertised speeds. Particularly DSL providers.

There's improvement thanks to naming and shaming, but overall the report notes that just 4 of 14 ISPs actually deliver what they say they deliver. You have shit standards if you think thats "delivering what they promise to their customers."


bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

80% of "max advertised" isn't really struggling. My speedometer goes to 160MPH but I doubt my car can even do 80MPH.

I'd rather have 50% of a 10 mbit segment than 150% of a 1 mbit link.



Mojo 77

@ecatel.net

Again, just FOUR of FOURTEEN ISPs are capable of delivering speeds they PROMISE IN ADVERTISING at peak times. That's struggling to meet their own standards, by any definition.



coldmoon
Premium
join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC
Reviews:
·Windstream
reply to bn1221

said by bn1221:

80% of "max advertised" isn't really struggling. My speedometer goes to 160MPH but I doubt my car can even do 80MPH.

I'd rather have 50% of a 10 mbit segment than 150% of a 1 mbit link.

That is a straw man argument. Failure is failure whether you are 1 foot or 1 mile from your goal...
--
Returnil - 21st Century body armor for your PC


Mojo 77

@speakeasy.net

Seriously, is in any wonder the U.S. has some of the most expensive broadband anywhere and we still struggle to connect many places if some of this website's regulars are any example of the public thought process?

A report clearly shows ISPs are still failing to provide advertised speeds, and you've got people here who either deny the data or whose first thought is "golly I think failing to deliver what they promise isn't really considered struggling."

Where are all the smart and empathic people at this website hiding?



FFH
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
kudos:5

said by Mojo 77 :

A report clearly shows ISPs are still failing to provide advertised speeds...

They also advertise that those speeds are "up to" those speeds. And that they may be less than the "optimum" number. No promises. No guarantees.
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Aranarth

join:2011-11-04
Stanwood, MI
reply to coldmoon

I guess it all depends on the size of your bomb... I use atomic weapons so I can miss by a mile...



The Limit
Premium
join:2007-09-25
Greensboro, NC
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Windstream
reply to FFH

...so you are saying that my seriously oversubscribed CO at home is within those limits? I don't think so. Why does Windstream give service credits if they are unable to provide?
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"We will evaluate these integrals rigorously if we can, and non-rigorously if we must".
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bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY
Reviews:
·TowerStream

2 recommendations

reply to coldmoon

So you work a full 480 minutes per 8 hour shift? I wish I was your manager so I could have an employee that understand working one less minute than a full 8 hour shift is theft.

How do you like the strict interpretation of the rules applied to you?


Cobra11M

join:2010-12-23
Mineral Wells, TX
reply to FFH

said by FFH:

said by Mojo 77 :

A report clearly shows ISPs are still failing to provide advertised speeds...

They also advertise that those speeds are "up to" those speeds. And that they may be less than the "optimum" number. No promises. No guarantees.

and that's where they messed up.., "UP TO" tell that to the tax payers 40 years ago that paid for the cable in the first place.. government sold it to private now its all messed up, regulation is need in this area more than ever, Just like theirs regulation in the wireless industry the cable co's need it to..


The Limit
Premium
join:2007-09-25
Greensboro, NC
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Windstream
reply to bn1221

That's not even a valid comparison, we have labor laws in place that allow so many breaks per eight hour shift. The work place is regulated. The broadband industry is not regulated. If you were his manager, you would be investigated by the Labor Board if you did this.
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"We will evaluate these integrals rigorously if we can, and non-rigorously if we must".
---Victor Moll, invited talk, Tom Osler Fest (April 17, 2010)



coldmoon
Premium
join:2002-02-04
Broadway, NC
Reviews:
·Windstream
reply to bn1221

said by bn1221:

So you work a full 480 minutes per 8 hour shift? I wish I was your manager so I could have an employee that understand working one less minute than a full 8 hour shift is theft.

How do you like the strict interpretation of the rules applied to you?

I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I only worked for that short amount of time so I fail to see the relevance of your reply...
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Returnil - 21st Century body armor for your PC

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
Reviews:
·LUS Fiber
reply to bn1221

said by bn1221:

80% of "max advertised" isn't really struggling. My speedometer goes to 160MPH but I doubt my car can even do 80MPH.

I'd rather have 50% of a 10 mbit segment than 150% of a 1 mbit link.

this is not a good analogy at all. I don't expect a toyota yaris to go 160, but if i purchased a vette .. id expect it to go 160.

What the ISP's are doing is simple ..they are selling a perceived corvette speed that actually runs like a yaris.


NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
reply to Cobra11M

said by Cobra11M:

... tell that to the tax payers 40 years ago that paid for the cable in the first place ... government sold it to private ...

Looks like a guy named Bob Magness used borrowed money to build a CATV system from scratch. When it went public in 1972, it became, "Tele-Communications, Inc." (aka, "TCI"). Did I not dig deep enough? What will I find rooting around the Internet for the histories of the other MSOs?
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

15444104
Premium
join:2012-06-11
reply to Mojo 77

said by Mojo 77 :

Again, just FOUR of FOURTEEN ISPs are capable of delivering speeds they PROMISE IN ADVERTISING at peak times. That's struggling to meet their own standards, by any definition.

Exactly...

Yet the amusing thing here in this thread is how many erm...members seem rather desperate to defend the ISPs. Maybe they are PR people that work for those same ISPs. Naw that can't be!