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kim
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Re: [Serious] We are considering private school - want opinions

Congrats Don
I'm a big believer of private schools. The kids are much more well behaved and imo well rounded.
The public system is a mess full of undisciplined kids that the schools are too afraid to deal with.
Environment is everything when it comes to healthy kids and I believe private schools while not perfect are certainly the better choice overall.
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ekster
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said by kim:

Congrats Don
I'm a big believer of private schools. The kids are much more well behaved and imo well rounded.
The public system is a mess full of undisciplined kids that the schools are too afraid to deal with.

There's a huge difference from school to school, regardless if they're private or public. My wife's a teacher, and her best friends are teachers all over. Some private schools are the biggest joke. They don't care about anything but collecting tuition fees and making parents happy by giving kids good grades.

A friend worked at a private school, and she got fired because she wasn't on the same wavelength as the administration: she refused to give passing grades to kids just because the number of kids who didn't do any work and deserved to fail exceeded their maximum of 'only 3 kids per class can fail'.

Just as I've seen some public schools being way better than any private school. The school will only be as good as their administration, and currently the administration only comes in two flavours: 'kids can't fail, parents must be happy so we can get more funding' or 'kids need to be held responsible, need to be helped, and need to be educated'. The two are found in both public and private, so picking one over another is pointless. Only way to know is to actually go to each school.


kim
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Of course there are variations from school to school, that goes without saying. I have very little faith in the public school system which may come across as more pro private school than intended but there it is.

I don't know if there's a fool proof way to choose a school unless of course it's Hillfield or similar.

Physicaly going to each school is a start but it may or may not give you an accurate view of the schools. That would depend on many subjective factors including each individuals ability to assess personality types.

Test scores, curriculuum and how teachers and administrators handle difficult students are all factors to be weighed in. How did they handle the last bully for example.

In the private system they have more control over their students or they'll be thrown out. Public system - not so much.

You could however attend an open school meeting between staff and parents. There you would see what the parents complaints are. Do all schools have these?
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ekster
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You should just always assume that test scores are lies, for the most part. A lot of schools like to make them higher than they really are, private or public. All schools should have parents-teachers meeting. However, you also won't know everything from just visiting, but it can tell a lot more than grades and whether it's private or public.

I'm luckier being with a teacher, as we can judge every school in our area by actually talking to people who have worked or still work there... that's probably the only real way of knowing how good a school really is-- befriend a teacher.

Mind you, the best high school in our area, if not the whole city, is a private school. But, at the same time, I know of two other private schools that are considered amazing by parents to be simply horrible. A friend worked at both, and like i said, the only priority to the administration is to keep parents happy by saying how amazing their kid is and by giving them good grades, even if they deserve to fail.


kim
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Excellent point. Having an 'in' with a teacher or two who's judgement you trust would be excellent.

So Don.. Are the girls excited about their new school?
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donoreo
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said by kim:

Excellent point. Having an 'in' with a teacher or two who's judgement you trust would be excellent.

So Don.. Are the girls excited about their new school?

After they did a day there, they are. We sort of have an "in" with a teacher. We discussed the school with someone who is a teacher and they said they heard good things about the school.

The whole thread has moved away a bit from where I started, but a lot if it valid.

It is going to cost us $950 or so per month if they go to public school for before and after. That is a fact. So why not spend $200 more for private school? It seems so simple.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by donoreo:

It is going to cost us $950 or so per month if they go to public school for before and after. That is a fact. So why not spend $200 more for private school? It seems so simple.

doesn't seem too bad to me...plus, it might help keep your kids away from the "less desirable", as most parents who are paying a premium for their kids are likely to have better behaved kids...not a guarantee, but i am sure it is likely.
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said by dirtyjeffer:

said by donoreo:

It is going to cost us $950 or so per month if they go to public school for before and after. That is a fact. So why not spend $200 more for private school? It seems so simple.

doesn't seem too bad to me...plus, it might help keep your kids away from the "less desirable", as most parents who are paying a premium for their kids are likely to have better behaved kids...not a guarantee, but i am sure it is likely.

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Really? I would imagine there's quite afew spoiled brats attending this school.


dirtyjeffer
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said by Mike2009:

Really? I would imagine there's quite afew spoiled brats attending this school.

i'm sure there is some, but they are at public schools too.