 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | reply to Ghastlyone
Re: Got My New Build Lined Out.... Looks good, I'd suggest dropping to an i5-3570k (there will be minimal impact on gaming performance) and upgrading to a 240/256GB SSD and a 2 or 3 TB HDD. There are DR's on gaming performance when using processors above the top unlocked i5 CPU, so you'd save $100 you could put towards something else.
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 GhastlyonePremium
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Las Vegas, NV
kudos:2 | said by Krisnatharok:Looks good, I'd suggest dropping to an i5-3570k (there will be minimal impact on gaming performance) and upgrading to a 240/256GB SSD and a 2 or 3 TB HDD. There are DR's on gaming performance when using processors above the top unlocked i5 CPU, so you'd save $100 you could put towards something else.
After doing a little more reading, I am going to go with an i5 3570k instead. A lot of people are saying for gaming only, this processor is plenty, and basically a 3770k is a waste of money.
said by Dissembled:Not sure you've actually asked a question, so I'll just throw out my random comments.
1 - You can't reuse your DVD drive?
2 - That's an awfully expensive mobo. Are you really going to use all those features?
3 - You don't need (X2) 140mm fans, just one.
4 - Use my and Kris's recommendations and get a new 6XX GPU.
1- My current DVD drive is the factory one that came with my HP desktop. I figured 25 bucks for a brand new one isn't bad.
2 - Regarding the MB. I didn't think 179.99 was a bad price. Kind of middle of the road compared to other 250-$270 ones. I'd love to get an EVGA Z77 MB to be honest, but 330 dollars is bit out of price range for me.
3 - I was ordering 2 extra 140mm fans to install in the open slots for this Rosewill case. The bottom and top slots. They are optional though, I might end up changing my mind.
4 - An EVGA 680 will be purchased in probably another year or so. This current card runs pretty good  |
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demirPremium
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usa | reply to Krisnatharok
I like the setup, except I'd get a cheaper i5 and drop the SSD and get a newer video card with the savings. You can get better performance with less money.
*edit* I guess i'm a bit late on suggestions. |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | said by demir:I like the setup, except I'd get a cheaper i5 and drop the SSD and get a newer video card with the savings.
I don't get people who say to drop the SSDs--with the bottoming out of price, it's one of the cheapest upgrades you can get that makes your computer fly through boot-up, app launch, map loading, and game save screens. I could never go back to booting up off a mechanical HDD and am beginning to start looking for a 240/256 GB deal to snipe (120GB Vertex 2 is getting a little small).
If you can spare ~$80, throw in the SSD.
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demirPremium
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usa | From a budget oriented perspective, I prefer video performance over boot times and launch screens. I can spend less money and get better framerates.
I have an SSD in all of my systems, dropping the SSD is something I recommend to people spending under $1400 |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | $1400? For that amount you can get quality components and at least a GTX 670. The annoyance of slow loading screens and game saves (I especially noticed quick game saves under the SSDs) is worth the money, IMO, especially when an SSD now costs so little.
Different perspectives and priorities, I guess.
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demirPremium
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1 edit | I would put the top of the line video card in my system before considering an SSD at the $1400 price point.
You seem to think that I don't like SSD's or something. I love SSD's, --- but not so great if you're giving up video card performance for one.
It's kind of like telling the guy with $40 grand to buy a ferrari, because they are better and just a little more money than the mustang. Everybody loves a ferrari, but people want to go fast on less money. |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | said by demir:I would put the top of the line video card in my system before considering an SSD at the $1400 price point.
You seem to think that I don't like SSD's or something. I love SSD's, --- but not so great if you're giving up video card performance for one.
It's kind of like telling the guy with $40 grand to buy a ferrari, because they are better and just a little more money than the mustang. Everybody loves a ferrari, but people want to go fast on less money.
Ah, but would you skip the seats (perhaps use an improvised picnic table instead) and mirrors (cut down a bathroom mirror!) in your Mustang just to get a little bit more juice from the engine? As recommenders of components, we ought to keep an eye on the "total experience" a user is in for, instead of sacrificing everything on the altar of GPU power.
Sure, $100 may bump you from a GTX 670 to a GTX 680, but most people probably won't know the difference compared to what they are upgrading from, and that same $100 can buy you a really nice Intel 120 GB (with change left over) that will vastly improve other facets of the experience.
This isn't like an RPG where you dump absolutely every single attribute point into your primary stat and call it a day. Your overall experience will be much, much better with a nice mobo, Gold-rated modular PSU, nice case, and fast mechanical HDD. Sure, you could scrape together $150 more if you buy absolutely the cheapest crap for everything else and use it to get a better GPU, but experience and possibly performance overall will suffer.
That's my perspective, anyways, and I tend to recommend items above the bottom in each category so the user has a better experience, even if he has to sacrifice some theoretical high-end power in the GPU to do so. Having dealt with very un-user-friendly components, I like the HDD cages and tool-less design of my case!
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demirPremium
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usa | Since many posters here don't really know what they are doing more or less, I try to present options for better gaming performance and why.
What we call 'experience' on our gaming setups is very, very subjective. Cutting an SSD from a build isn't making the other components in the build cheap.
You don't need an SSD to have a fantastic gaming setup --- that's really my point.
Granted, you don't need a top-end video card either --- It's simply my subjective option to put money where it will be reflected in FPS and video quality over general system and boot performance. |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | said by demir:Cutting an SSD from a build isn't making the other components in the build cheap. Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant that you don't want to skimp on absolutely everything to pour all your money into the GPU. Yes, the GPU is where you get the biggest bang for your buck for a long while down the moneyroad, but IMO it's still better to have a well-balanced machine.
said by demir:Granted, you don't need a top-end video card either --- It's simply my subjective option to put money where it will be reflected in FPS and video quality over general system and boot performance.
That's fine, just so people understand where both of us are coming from.
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1 edit | reply to Ghastlyone
said by Ghastlyone:3 - I was ordering 2 extra 140mm fans to install in the open slots for this Rosewill case. The bottom and top slots. They are optional though, I might end up changing my mind. It looks like it comes with one installed in the top slot. That's why I said you'd only need one. It looks like they say you can mount two 140's to the top though? Not sure I understand how that even works if that's what it means. |
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GhastlyonePremium
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kudos:2 | said by Dissembled:said by Ghastlyone:3 - I was ordering 2 extra 140mm fans to install in the open slots for this Rosewill case. The bottom and top slots. They are optional though, I might end up changing my mind. It looks like it comes with one installed in the top slot. That's why I said you'd only need one. It looks like they say you can mount two 140's to the top though? Not sure I understand how that even works if that's what it means. Yes, the top does take (2) 120 or 140mm fans. I opted to only order (1) 140mm for the bottom and (1) 120mm X 12mm low profile fan for the side of the case under the motherboard.
Either way, this case should have plenty of cooling. |
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