I think a group should be willing to stick togather for atleast 3 wipes
Last night I joined a DS Pug that said they were going to do heroic mar and ultra, um ya right.
on Mar I was top DPS and #2 was over 5k lower (and it dropped like a rock as you went further down the list)
they got a 2nd mage after the hunter left on 1 wipe (he wanted to compair a PUG to the top guild on the server LOL, ya the top guild on the server does 1 shot everything the same is rare for pugs)
well the 2nd mage was utter crap, only pulled like 10k dps, and the clone tank couldn't manage to last.
Plus even though the clone group (group1) had both a shamy and a mage nether would pop hero when the RL wanted.
after more than doubleing my total wipes on heroic mar (who I've downed before) they opt to switch to reg and just kill him (should have been my sign to scram, but I figured maybe they'd be able to atleast finish the raid on reg and I might get some upgrades)
nope, they downed Mar, then went on to wipe on warlord, melee not GTFO at 5 stacks as the RL wanted, then they called it (seems they were getting tired)
So ah crap I'm locked to 1 boss in and who's ever going to be looking for people to join with 1 boss down.
so a total waste of time.
then in LFR part 2 earlier in the night.
I come in and they just wiped on ultra, so I figure ok no big deal maybe the bads left and all will be ok.
No such luck.
Tanks couldn't keep aggro, so ultra tried to melee me (WTF why am I #2 on threat) yay iceblock
the rest of the raid didn't go much better, tanks kept dieing and needing to be brezed and everytime a tank died the mob would go right to me.
On madness, 2nd platform, MT dies, I die almost instantly after, MT gets Brezed (gotta have tanks) I lay there for the rest of the fight.
and per recount I'm top DPS on all but spine, and even there I'm not far down (dumb Spreist kept killing coruptions) so we had to keep killing amalgs.