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DSLvis

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Linux - Install FF 14 on EeePC

Don't know how to install Firefox on netbook. Think is running Xandros?
Downloaded FF 14 to home directory.
It's currentlly on Firefox 3 (don't know if there is any security issues with that?)
Thanks for any help with this.

DSLvis

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Just found out that Firefox 3.6 was the last compatible version for Xandros.


graysonf
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On CentOS 5.x FF is also stuck on older versions.

What I do to use the latest is download the tarball and untar it to a folder. Everything FF needs is in the tarball, it does not depend on any other system libraries.

Just run the FF executable in the folder.

DSLvis

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said by graysonf:

Just run the FF executable in the folder.

I'm a Windows user.
Need some hand holding here.

Firefox file is firefox-14.0.1.tar.bz2


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said by DSLvis:

I'm a Windows user.
Need some hand holding here.

Firefox file is firefox-14.0.1.tar.bz2

tar xvjf firefox-14.0.1.tar.bz2

DSLvis

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OK got it unzipped (untarred) into a folder.
There is a file named run-mozilla.sh. Double clicked on it but doesn't do anything (run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .)


No_Strings
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make the file executable - it's probably not by default - by doing this:

cd whatever the directory name is
chmod +x run-mozilla.sh

Then, try to execute it with:

./run-mozilla.sh

Assuming that works, you can make a shortcut in your task bar or on the desktop to act as a launcher.


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reply to DSLvis
said by DSLvis:

OK got it unzipped (untarred) into a folder.
There is a file named run-mozilla.sh. Double clicked on it but doesn't do anything (run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .)

The file you want to run is named firefox


No_Strings
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D'OH! Sorry for pointing to the wrong file. I think that's the install script.

DSLvis, other than my file name stupidity, the other instructions apply.

DSLvis

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OK I finally managed how to get into the directory from the terminal!
Directory is: /home/user/firefox-14

I then tried out
chmod +x run-firefox
came up
command not found
then tried
./run-firefox
No such file or directory.



No_Strings
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Are you in the firefox-14 directory when you try to do that?

DSLvis

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Surely am:

DSLvis

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...and if you were wondering if anything was in that folder:

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Run the following commands from the unix command line:

cd /home/user/firefox-14
chmod ugo+rx run-mozilla.sh


Now, you can start FF by issuing the commands:

cd /home/user/firefox-14
/home/user/firefox-14/run-mozilla.sh


See ya...

d.c.


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reply to DSLvis
said by DSLvis:

...and if you were wondering if anything was in that folder:

Do you see that file named firefox? Why don't you try executing that one.

./firefox

DSLvis

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Awesome!
Thanks for all of your help!

DSLvis

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Err... one more thing.
The Eee PC desktop web icon still refers to FF3?
How do I go about changing to FF14?

BTW: It's in "Easy Mode".
Thanks


Black Box

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Just a hint: dir is here just an alias for ls (with lowercase L). I mention this because not all distros have the alias defined.

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graysonf
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said by DSLvis:

Err... one more thing.
The Eee PC desktop web icon still refers to FF3?
How do I go about changing to FF14?

BTW: It's in "Easy Mode".
Thanks

Not sure what desktop environment you have there. But on the ones I use I open the folder containing the firefox executable in a file manager. Then I left click on the firefox executable file and drag and drop it onto the desktop. I am then offered the opportunity to copy the file to the desktop or link to it. I choose link.

The other thing you can do is try to determine the properties of the icon object already on the desktop has. You should be able to edit the path to the file it refers to. Just change it to the full path to the new firefox executable.

Or another way to do it would be to create a symbolic link to the executable in a shell. Read up on that to learn how to do that.

DSLvis

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said by Black Box:

Just a hint: dir is here just an alias for ls (with lowercase L). I mention this because not all distros have the alias defined.

Hmm...yeah, "ls" works as well...interesting!
A little more Linux knowledge for me. :)

Picked up "dir" from DOS days.
Just gave it a shot and it worked!
Don't know if that's only a command for Xandros or other distros.

Made a temporary bookmark link for Firefox 14 within the file manager.

This is my mother's netbook, and I'm sure she won't be pleased with that way of opening it. Hopefully I can find a way to open FF 14 from the desktop. :huh:

DSLvis

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said by graysonf:

...left click on the firefox executable file and drag and drop it onto the desktop. I am then offered the opportunity to copy the file to the desktop or link to it. I choose link.

That doesn't work.

said by graysonf:

The other thing you can do is try to determine the properties of the icon object already on the desktop has. You should be able to edit the path to the file it refers to. Just change it to the full path to the new firefox executable.

The desktop icon's path cannot be changed (nothing I know of anyway).

said by graysonf:

Or another way to do it would be to create a symbolic link to the executable in a shell. Read up on that to learn how to do that.

The bookmark link in the file manager opens up a shell.
If the shell window closes then Firefox goes with it.

Found this info about symbolic links:
A symbolic link is a "file" pointing to another file.

To make a symbolic link :
ln /original/file /new/link

This makes /original/file and /new/link the same file - edit one and the other will change.
The file will not be gone until both /original/file and /new/link are deleted.
IMO: These Eee PC's are really stupid netbooks!


Black Box

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Uh, for symbolic links you use
ln -s existing_file new_file_or_directory
 

Without the -s you are creating a hard link. Hard links cannot be done with directories and across filesystems and the file disappears once all hard links are gone.

A symbolic link does not have the limitations of the hard link, but if one deletes the original file the symbolic link is broken as it is pointing to nothing.

In both cases, editing either new or original will make the other change.

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DSLvis

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So this is the "shell" that Firefox must use in order for it to run from the file manager.

Now for the symbolic link - where does that go once it is created?
It's hard to grasp Linux for me, but I'm trying.


Black Box

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That looks like it, but why I don't see the command prompt?

The symbolic link acts just a regular file (or directory). You could create one on the desktop instead of copying the executable o the desktop (BAD idea).

BTW, which desktop environment are you using? You should be able to use the menu editor to create a menu item. Try to right click on the equivalent of the Start button from Windows. You should see an option to edit the menu.
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Xandros is crap, you'd be better off replacing the whole distro.
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reply to DSLvis
said by DSLvis:

It's hard to grasp Linux for me, but I'm trying.

A lot of this has to do with the version of Linux you have chosen. On other versions of Linux this is very easy.


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said by Maxo:

said by DSLvis:

It's hard to grasp Linux for me, but I'm trying.

A lot of this has to do with the version of Linux you have chosen. On other versions of Linux this is very easy.

Nobody chooses Xandros, it just comes pre-installed with an Eee PC. (Well, OK, technically someone at ASUS chose it, God knows why. Just not the end user.)
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DSLvis

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said by Black Box:

BTW, which desktop environment are you using?

Far as I know the Linux Xandros Eee PCs use KDE and IceWM.

said by Black Box:

You should be able to use the menu editor to create a menu item. Try to right click on the equivalent of the Start button from Windows. You should see an option to edit the menu.

This thing doesn't work like Windows. You can't right click onto anything nor can you make a path from the icon to the file. Absolutely stupid!

It has a desktop made for three year olds, with it's "Fisher Price" design!
This keyboard is no better!

I don't know how my mother could tolerate it!
She chose the Linux version to avoid viruses.

Any of those web icons will start up Firefox 3 again which deletes any history and add ons from FF 14!

said by Black Box:

The symbolic link acts just a regular file (or directory). You could create one on the desktop instead of copying the executable o the desktop (BAD idea).

Just found out there is a way to create a symbolic link within the Xandros File Manager through the menu.

Does the same thing as with the bookmark.


Black Box

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said by DSLvis:

Far as I know the Linux Xandros Eee PCs use KDE and IceWM.

Hmmm, it doesn't look at all like the KDE I use now to write this.

said by DSLvis:

This thing doesn't work like Windows. You can't right click onto anything nor can you make a path from the icon to the file. Absolutely stupid!

I surely can right click on the "K" button (Start button equivalent) and see the Edit Menu option. Anyway, I've found something about the Xandros menu editor here. See if helps you.

said by DSLvis:

Any of those web icons will start up Firefox 3 again which deletes any history and add ons from FF 14!

Use the menu editor to replace the Firefox 3 commands with Firefox 14 (make sure that the firefox executable is the new one, not the default one).

said by DSLvis:

Just found out there is a way to create a symbolic link within the Xandros File Manager through the menu.

Does the same thing as with the bookmark.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Good if it works for you.
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DSLvis

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said by Black Box:

Hmmm, it doesn't look at all like the KDE I use now to write this.

KDE lies beneath this beast. There's a way to unveil it to full KDE mode.

said by Black Box:

I surely can right click on the "K" button (Start button equivalent) and see the Edit Menu option. Anyway, I've found something about the Xandros menu editor here. See if helps you.

Appreciate the tip there Black Box. That looks like the Konqueror menu editor I found when messing about with this thing. Forget how I got that running.

said by Black Box:

Use the menu editor to replace the Firefox 3 commands with Firefox 14 (make sure that the firefox executable is the new one, not the default one).

I've had this thing too long. My mother's going to kill me when she sees how she has to get online now!

I somehow wiped out the Web icon using EmEditor. I don't know how to get it back. Also there are for some reason two icons for the dictionary!

said by Maxo:

A lot of this has to do with the version of Linux you have chosen. On other versions of Linux this is very easy.

Incidentally, I had to do some data retrieval with my Windows laptop (reason for borrowing this Eee PC). Anyway, I used Ubuntu live CD to back up my data. I must say it is pretty nice to work with. In a way it's similar to Windows XP.

So not all Linux distros are as difficult to work with as this one is.