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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
reply to gatorkram

Re: [D3] Still playing? [poll]

said by gatorkram:

Having played on "private" wow servers, where they adjust the drop rates, so that you get pretty much anything you want, it soon gets very boring. The same would be true for D3, I have no doubt.

As currently implemented, people are leaving out of frustration with never being able to get what they want. Wouldn't it be better if people were able to get what they want before they quit?
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stvnbrs
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Cary, NC
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reply to gatorkram
While reading about Torchlight 2 their developers mentioned something I thought was the biggest problem with D3. Balancing. TL2 won't do any balancing because #1) they don't want to do all the math, and #2) they say it is fun to be the bad-ass character taking on hordes of monsters.

I am ok with difficulty increases, but to a point. D3 punishes players without top tier gear by pigeon-holing them into specific play styles and abilities (at least on barbarian side). This isn't fun. What is the point of playing and trying out all the different abilities when you will have to pretty much drop everything but 1 offensive ability just to stay alive?

All ilvl 62 gear? That's great, but not good enough, need all ilvl 62 w/ specific stats, what it won't drop? go buy it, or keep staying at the same level over and over and over and over. This is equivalent to having to COMPLETELY gear all players out in WoW with top tier gear before taking on trash for the next tier. What, you have 1 item with ilvl 403? YOU Shall NOT Pass!

Blizzard missed the mark, they added an AH and didn't have the foresight or even bother to test how it would work prior to shipment.

My solution: remove cost of BS
remove ability to resocket gems (destroy yes)
increase drop rates on ilvl 60-63 throughout Inferno
create ilvl 64 gear that only drops in Act 4

Reasoning: BS just sucks, this would give players another form of item hunting without penalizing them so heftily. Remove the gem recycling in order to create a game gold sink and ensure the gem market doesn't get screwed down the road. ilvl 59 gear doesn't cut it in Inferno, by increasing drop rates of gear, you are providing an actual way to progress, and with the removal of BS costs, most items will be recycled back into other items keeping them out of economy. The ilvl 64 gear is the item hunt that players will want/need that makes them powerful but isn't required for anything beyond being able to possibly reduce the number of defensive abilities used and maybe have fun with more abilities like when players leveled.

/endrant
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Thaler
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Los Angeles, CA
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reply to gatorkram
said by gatorkram:

As to the overall way they had to design drops, due to the millions of people playing, and the easy exchange of items for gold or money, sure they had to cut back on the number of drops people get overall or the market would be flooded with items, and the game would be over for most in a few weeks.

Problem starts when you tune the drops so hard though, the only real path people see is dropping $$$ on a broken game. Then they bail, less people are fishing these rare drops, and the problem just keeps compounding itself.

I'll just put it this way: in D2, I actually could grind out to find items that me or my friends could use. In D3, I've put in many, many hours in 60 toons to simply not find a god damn thing.

Diablo 3 is a great and balanced game for the 1-60 players. However, I just can't recommend the 60+ game to anyone at this point - it's an unrewarding face grind.


Draiman
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join:2012-06-01
Kill Devil Hills, NC
reply to gatorkram
I'd agree 1-60 is entertaining but 60 grinding isn't worth it.

clawfury

join:2012-02-14
Rochester, MI
reply to gatorkram
I had high hopes for this game, it looked like a lot of fun. Between the "always online" component (which I understand, but hate) and the content really being only about 8 hours (yes, you can play the exact same content over with different blue packs, but how is that original content?) it's really a pile of shit as said above. I got to Act II Hell and was so bored I can't bring myself to touch it. I'm rather sad for what Blizzard content has become, I used to buy anything they made no matter what, I won't any more.

Besice

join:2011-06-16
Tempe, AZ
reply to Thaler
I agree 100% Thaler.


Draiman
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reply to gatorkram
Even the 1-60 grind can be done in 16 hours most likely even faster if you tried.
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JB
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Re: [D3] Still playing? [poll]

I'm sure there's one thing we can most agree on.

Diablo 3 sux, sux big piles of horse poop.
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gatorkram
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said by JB:

I'm sure there's one thing we can most agree on.

Diablo 3 sux, sux big piles of horse poop.

I'd have to disagree.
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puppy

join:2010-01-28
I think D3 is worth the $60 I spent on it. God knows how many other things I spent $60 that I've gotten a lot less enjoyment out of.

Yes D3 has serious issues with rehashed content and bad end game, and I am seriously sad about progressing, but overall I think it's still a good game.


JB
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reply to gatorkram
Well, for everyone 1 of you there's me and 2 others that feel the same way. Just look at the graph
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Draiman
Let me see those devil horns in the sky

join:2012-06-01
Kill Devil Hills, NC
reply to gatorkram
As a single player games it's fine. As a multiplayer game at level 60 it's as bad as when a glowing eyed villain shows up to attack Scooby Doo when he's right about to eat a nice big meat sandwich. That just stinks!


I AM
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reply to puppy
said by puppy:

Yes D3 has serious issues with rehashed content and bad end game, and I am seriously sad about progressing...

I knew this going in and I was stupid enough to buy it. I hate grinding so why did I purchase a game that's end game is endless grinding the same content? Cause my friends did. Now if they jump of a bridge I might as well too.


gatorkram
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reply to JB
said by JB:

Well, for everyone 1 of you there's me and 2 others that feel the same way. Just look at the graph

I can't argue with you on that point.

I do think the game will get better over time. I know Blizzard, they will not fold their hands under their butts and leave so many people unhappy.

Mark my words.
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Thaler
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Well, every week that goes by without at least fixing month-old exploits isn't doing them any favors. You can't trade with anyone without getting scammed currently.


Beef7

join:2012-05-16
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reply to gatorkram
D3 to blizzard is an after thought (a sideshow)

They are obsessed with MoP and making $$$$

I would only rely on blizzard the next 8 years for WoW + Titan

THE END


Ghastlyone
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reply to gatorkram
I noticed Savious6 See Profile aint no where to be found in this thread.


Krisnatharok
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About 100 votes and 75% has quit.


Ghastlyone
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reply to gatorkram
I'm so glad I didn't buy this pile of crap.

From what some former guild members told me....I made a smart move.

Grinding endlessly for gear aint my cup o' tea. I did that shit in WoW. I don't want to do it in other games also.

Besice

join:2011-06-16
Tempe, AZ
I dont think it was a waste of money, I got exactly what I wanted from it. It was something new and fun regardless if it lasted a month or not it was still worth the time.

I would still be playing it if there were more things to do but content gets old after repeating it 4 times through inferno and the item drops were broken I believe. If they had things together from jump street (after 10 years) it would probably be better.

I am sure I will play again sometime later down the road just as I did with D2.


bionicRod
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reply to Ghastlyone
said by Ghastlyone:

Grinding endlessly for gear aint my cup o' tea.

I wish you could grind for gear. If you could grind for gear more people would still be playing.


Thaler
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reply to Krisnatharok
said by Krisnatharok:

About 100 votes and 75% has quit.

24% Haven't quit. I guess 1% voted Pat Buchanan.


MysticGogeta
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reply to gatorkram
I played D2 LOD (As I'm sure many of us have) and it had a way different feel because of corse in hell things were challanging but you were rewared for grinding runs killing Baal with decent loot after several runs that you could upgrade your other characters with or use to trade for better items.
I think the AH combined with the drop system has severly broken the game because you HAVE to use the AH to make money by selling things to buy top quality items because they almost NEVER drop and when you see them on the AH (or RMAH) they are crazy expensive and require a lot of playing the AH for gold or giving in to pay money for a broken system (Which I refuse to do)
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Thaler
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reply to bionicRod
said by bionicRod:

said by Ghastlyone:

Grinding endlessly for gear aint my cup o' tea.

I wish you could grind for gear. If you could grind for gear more people would still be playing.

Oh God yes this. Unfortunately, D3's gear is all RNG, so after an unsuccessful gear farm/grind you're still as equally likely to find jack squat. At least on WoW doing your weeklies actually notably get you to an improvement of gear.

Maybe a solution would be if there were Blacksmith recipies for "good" gear, but not the best gear. That way, there's still that RNG chance for godly gear...but you can still eventually get gear that lets you over the Inferno gear checks.

Critsmcgee

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reply to Thaler
said by Thaler:

said by Krisnatharok:

About 100 votes and 75% has quit.

24% Haven't quit. I guess 1% voted Pat Buchanan.

I voted for none of the above.