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silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to One More Too

Re: HughesNet Gen 4 (USA Latest News)

Gen4 has the capacity to supply decent plans with low cost overages. It is not even a matter of trying to make people think they don't have the capacity anymore. With 140gbps of capacity, it is simply "because we can."

Capacity issues are only a problem during peak anyway, which is when QoS is already implemented to handle congestion. Charging overages during periods of non-peak is purely for money.

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state
reply to One More Too
quote:
I'm guessing that Hughes has determined that, if they sell additional bandwidth for a modest charge, people won't hesitate to use that additional bandwidth and that such additional bandwidth usage will stretch available bandwidth to the point of bogging down the system for all users.
NO...They are figuring you will go over and have no other option but to pay the $8 GB extortion fee. One reason out of a million....Your child's school requires them to perform research online and consumes all of the plans data within a week!

sharkyyoung
Premium
join:2012-03-15
Reno, NV
said by ricky_005:

quote:
I'm guessing that Hughes has determined that, if they sell additional bandwidth for a modest charge, people won't hesitate to use that additional bandwidth and that such additional bandwidth usage will stretch available bandwidth to the point of bogging down the system for all users.
NO...They are figuring you will go over and have no other option but to pay the $8 GB extortion fee. One reason out of a million....Your child's school requires them to perform research online and consumes all of the plans data within a week!

If your kid is using up GB's in a week or 2 for research, they are actually doing something else besides the research.

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state
Its going to happen..... kids are curious creatures.

And mommy and daddy gets a bill for $300 bucks ...

sharkyyoung
Premium
join:2012-03-15
Reno, NV
reply to ricky_005
said by ricky_005:

Here is the Canadian Gen 4 plans that's been known for some time ... »www.xplornet.com/traffic-managem···tv-itmp/

Guess what, the US consumers gets the shaft again! And what are you going to do about it? Nothing because your going to sit back on your couch and Watch Xanax commercials warning you of side affects which could cause depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself, unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger!

Its really funny how these plans have been known as you say for sometime, because until Hughes releases them i feel this is bogus at least for the U.S. maybe Canada knows something we all don't but I seriously doubt it

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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Xplornet is known ... The info for HughsNet USA came from a dealer supposedly , so for now I can only assume its accurate.

I suspect HughesNet and Exede are colluding as we speak as not to start a data war. What ever the outcome may be they will balance things on both sides so they both continue to have the market cornered. Very soon the official plans will be released and I expect them to look very similar to Exede...Example: Verizion/AT&T

This has been the trend in the markets for some time.... Don't start a War....Raping the consumers is more fun and more profitable for Me Me Me Me and the share holders. Beside the Government has been bought and paid for by no other than your favorite corporations.

A Tech

join:2008-11-10
reply to ricky_005
I just know how much satellite bandwidth cost in 1985 to light up a transponder 24 hours a day 7 days a week. $250 per hour on an unpopular ku bird at the time. I am grateful for what we get now and getting 60 gigs a month for $100.00 or so seems to be a bargain.

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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said by A Tech :

I just know how much satellite bandwidth cost in 1985 to light up a transponder 24 hours a day 7 days a week. $250 per hour on an unpopular ku bird at the time. I am grateful for what we get now and getting 60 gigs a month for $100.00 or so seems to be a bargain.

What Country and which Corporation is giving you 60GB a month for $100.00?

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to sharkyyoung
said by sharkyyoung:

said by ricky_005:

quote:
I'm guessing that Hughes has determined that, if they sell additional bandwidth for a modest charge, people won't hesitate to use that additional bandwidth and that such additional bandwidth usage will stretch available bandwidth to the point of bogging down the system for all users.
NO...They are figuring you will go over and have no other option but to pay the $8 GB extortion fee. One reason out of a million....Your child's school requires them to perform research online and consumes all of the plans data within a week!

If your kid is using up GB's in a week or 2 for research, they are actually doing something else besides the research.

Not necessarily. Teachers these days assign assignments without the slightest regard for data usage. Especially in highschool, where teachers assign for students to watch hours of online videos for some of their projects.

marsh_0x

join:2006-04-25
Tomahawk, WI

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I just called Dish Network and the tech was unaware of »www.exede.com/exede-customers/la···ree-zone nothing has been said to him.

Dropped from the 15GB package to 10GB their lowest plan for $52 (tax), last month used 3.4GB so makes sense to save $30.

In 3 hours will test after midnight cst, odd wasn't able to check usage until logging out of Gmail.
Too be continued drinking coffee haha

EDIT: darn it posted on the wrong thread

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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I used 2.3 GB of data just last night on HughesNet during the free FAP period.

If I consumed the same amount every night for the month. I would have consumed 69 GB of data for just $79.00 a month

Its not a great deal but I'm not getting Raped.

If I was on there new GEN 4 SAT 30GB plan. I would be receiving a bill for $412.00 + TAX For that price I can get a T1 circuit for $269.00 and Eat all I want, run a domain, email server you name it on my server in the house!

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

3 edits
reply to marsh_0x
Sounds VERY VERY tasty... Not very familiar with their throttling Scheme ...

Have heard rumors of very unfair throttling practices of users for simply using 75% of there data and they would throttle them down to a dial-up for using the data they payed for. And punish them even further by keeping them throttled down for weeks on end. Maybe someone can clear this up?

Maybe there is no colluding going on and there might be a Data War after all.... But I seriously doubt it though... Keeping fingers crossed there will be WAR!

There's still time for HughesNet to change there plans before releasing....Will have to wait and see.
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This Guy

@rr.com
reply to ricky_005

Re: HughesNet Gen 4 (USA Latest News)

CONFIRMED - Exede unlimited upload/download zone between 12-5 am.

»www.exede.com/exede-customers/la···ree-zone


Hopeless Gam

@direcway.com
reply to A Tech
hold on 60 gig for 100 bucks? where? who? and are they around me?


Hopless Gam

@direcway.com
reply to ricky_005
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Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
reply to ricky_005

Re: HughesNet Gen 4 (USA Latest News)

said by ricky_005:

For that price I can get a T1 circuit for $269.00 and Eat all I want, run a domain, email server you name it on my server in the house!

I'd love to see you try. A T1 is pathetic now-a-days. The speeds equal standard DSL lines (1.5mbps DSL - 1.544mbps T1) and cost a few hundred a month not to mention the setup fees and repeaters.

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to ricky_005
1.544mbps can do Netflix, gaming, traditional web browsing, voip, etc. with a far lower latency than Hughes with unlimited usage. I'd argue that is a much more enjoyable experience than anything Hughes can offer. Only problem is the cost. If you are willing to pay the costs, why not?

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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reply to Simba7
$269.00 3 year lease.....Circuit on Ebay for $60 bucks... As for speed its not going to knock your socks off .... but at-less I know I'm going to get 1.5mb down and up and ultra low latency!

As for the experience its very good....used one for years...streaming video works just fine.

If the government truly wanted to bring broadband (T1) to the masses, it could easily be done cheaply using the copper infrastructure which is already is place. As for the current cost .... its a shame and always has been.

A T1 line for $80 bucks could be a reality if it wasn't for greedy corporate lobbyist. It would be a great deal ... than hughesNet and WildBlue would have to migrate to providing satellite cellular service for the masses .... Can you hear me now!


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
reply to silbaco
Just make sure you get one of these for your T1.

»wvgazette.com/News/201205050057

ricky_005

join:2012-01-17
united state

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Tax payer dollars hard at work. lol


dbmaven
There's no shortage
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Sty in Sky
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A Tech

join:2008-11-10
reply to ricky_005

Re: HughesNet Gen 4 (USA Latest News)

said by ricky_005:

said by A Tech :

I just know how much satellite bandwidth cost in 1985 to light up a transponder 24 hours a day 7 days a week. $250 per hour on an unpopular ku bird at the time. I am grateful for what we get now and getting 60 gigs a month for $100.00 or so seems to be a bargain.

What Country and which Corporation is giving you 60GB a month for $100.00?

Hughes net


Tweakbl

join:2008-09-25
Rosedale, WV

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Reply to ATech

On a installer plan of coarse.


Tweakbl

join:2008-09-25
Rosedale, WV
reply to Simba7
Money wasted when a $100 Wifi Router would do the job that Rural Libraries need.


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
said by Tweakbl:

Money wasted when a $100 Wifi Router would do the job that Rural Libraries need.

Not when you're connecting it to a T1 or a Fiber connection. They didn't have to use the highest powered router, though. A Cisco 800-series would've been just perfect.

But.. Let's get back on topic..


Tweakbl

join:2008-09-25
Rosedale, WV
The Modem is supplied with T1 and Fiber connections in West Virginia. All they needed was to have a Hub to connect to. 5 PC's max.Therefore the Cheap $100 router would work.

A Tech

join:2008-11-10
reply to Tweakbl
said by Tweakbl:

Reply to ATech

On a installer plan of coarse.

Correction 40 gigs 20 anytime and 20 from 2 to 8 am.
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