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Wily_One
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reply to darcilicious

Re: Revolution (NBC, Sept 17)

I don't know what lame reason they will give for why electricity no longer works, but it's just a bit much for me to swallow from a scientific standpoint. Pass.

Phillip
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said by Wily_One:

I don't know what lame reason they will give for why electricity no longer works, but it's just a bit much for me to swallow from a scientific standpoint. Pass.

Yea, it kind of reminds me of a mix of Postman and Jericho, so I think it will be meh show at best.


DrStrange
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reply to Wily_One
I was assuming the big electrical shutoff was precipitated by a huge solar flare [X30+]. A repeat of the Carrington Event, or worse. You could stretch that out via literary license to fry every transformer on the planet, I suppose. Assuming no breakdown of law and order, it would take years to decades to get the power grid operational again. Assuming human nature, it would never come back on.


Octavean
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Yeah, I just assumed some massive Electro Magnetic pulse but they would really have to change the laws of physics and act as if chemistry didn’t exist to do away with things like guns, batteries, combustion engines and so on,……even simple circuits should still works. I mean what is an EM pulse going to do to some copper wire or a tungsten filament,….?

But when it comes down to it, sometimes you have to just suspend disbelief in order to enjoy the hot chick with the bow and arrow,…..


darcilicious
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said by Octavean:

sometimes you have to just suspend disbelief in order to enjoy the hot chick with the bow and arrow,…..

Or a hot guy with a sword. Ahem.


Alpha Phoenix
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reply to Octavean
Bet you aliens are responsible and they are just disabling our more complex technology in preparation of an invasion, and to kill any and all chances of opposition. Sheesh... if so, then it's Falling Skies all over again...
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"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo


Omega
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reply to Wily_One
said by Wily_One:

I don't know what lame reason they will give for why electricity no longer works, but it's just a bit much for me to swallow from a scientific standpoint. Pass.

I've had issues with it too. All electricity disabling technology is temporary. EMP destroy circuits, but they don't prevent electricity from working after the EMP is over.

I don't know if you have ever seen Farscape but in one episode, they encounter a planet where an energy field disables all technology. This is the only way I can accept the plot of revolution.

But at the same time, steam technology should still work, I wonder if Revolution will show stuff like trains.
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Alpha Phoenix
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So there's no more lightning either?


Wily_One
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said by Alpha Phoenix:

So there's no more lightning either?

Yeah if there's really a dampening field or somesuch that is "preventing" electricity from working, then the plot goes all to hell. Not just no lightning, no life at all. All life on Earth uses electricity to live. (ATP, electron transport, etc.) Furthermore, if there's no electricity then there can't be magnetism either. No magnetism, no magnetic field protecting Earth from solar radiation and cosmic rays. Again, = no life.


Alpha Phoenix
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Yep. I'm seeing major plot holes in this series. They really ought to run these plots and storylines by a panel of techie, and sci-fi geeks first. That way the plot holes and stupidity would be covered.
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"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo


Rook008
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reply to darcilicious
Hopefully they had a science adviser on hand to come up with a plausible explanation for the event, and actually use that explanation on the show.
But to be honest, even if they don't have a good explanation, I'll probably still watch just to see what happens. I can suspend disbelief enough to enjoy even bad sci-fi.
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Omega
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reply to Wily_One
said by Wily_One:

said by Alpha Phoenix:

So there's no more lightning either?

Yeah if there's really a dampening field or somesuch that is "preventing" electricity from working, then the plot goes all to hell. Not just no lightning, no life at all. All life on Earth uses electricity to live. (ATP, electron transport, etc.) Furthermore, if there's no electricity then there can't be magnetism either. No magnetism, no magnetic field protecting Earth from solar radiation and cosmic rays. Again, = no life.

In another thread on this forum, I identified this exact flaw with the series but was shot down by my forum peers.
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Wily_One
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I got yer back bro.


Stem Bolt
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reply to darcilicious
Watch "Revolution's" Olympics preview

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHa3nK5_ ··· embedded


darcilicious
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Funny how the "extended" preview is shorter than the one I posted
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Octavean
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reply to darcilicious
said by darcilicious:

said by Octavean:

sometimes you have to just suspend disbelief in order to enjoy the hot chick with the bow and arrow,…..

Or a hot guy with a sword. Ahem.

"Phrasing!!!",....

Still, turnabout is fair play,…

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander,…. and all that,..

So touche’,…


Scatcatpdx
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reply to darcilicious
I wonder how long before somebody thinks Revolution is a spin on or rip off of S.M. Stirling's The Emberverse series. a series I want to read.


Voxxjin
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reply to darcilicious
OK I didn't pay attention to this thread when it was started but I saw an ad for it on tv and knew someone here posted about it. I figure I will give it a shot. Could be interesting.

Regarding the trailer, interesting that the plane crashes, presumably because it has lost power yet the wing lights are still on. And as someone pointed out that planes don't spin out of control like that, unless hit by Godzilla.

So it seems that power does live according to the end of the trailer. Who is talking to who there at the end?

I can live with the idea that electronics don't work. For whatever reason. We don't know why but our attempts at electricity don't work.

I just hope it is a good show and lasts for a while.

In any case we will see Sep 17th.
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elwoodblues
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reply to darcilicious
Scifi doesn't sell well on conventional tv,first, I have no interest in waiting 8-9 months (with a hefty winter break) in the middle to play itself out.

2ndlly because it's going to be 22 or so episodes, how many filler episodes will there be to round out the season?

3rdly as I mentioned above due to it being (semi) serialized, how many viewers will forget the show after a 3 month break? The reason shows like falling skies do well is because it's a tight 10 episode story arc, he'll the Brits do this all the time with 6-8 episodes. You'll get 10 episodes in the fall taking us till the end of November , leaving 12 episodes for Jan to May, with at least 5-6 episodes "saved" for the Feb and May sweeps.

The numbers don't materialize and the show gets canceled, rinse repeat.
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PX Eliezer70
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reply to Alpha Phoenix
said by Alpha Phoenix:

So there's no more lightning either?

This whole theme was dealt with in a very entertaining story, Fredric Brown's "The Waveries", from 1945.


Alpha Phoenix
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said by PX Eliezer70:

said by Alpha Phoenix:

So there's no more lightning either?

This whole theme was dealt with in a very entertaining story, Fredric Brown's "The Waveries", from 1945.

Please elaborate.
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DrStrange
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Can't find any links to the whole thing, but here's a synopsis.

»ascentionist.blogspot.com/2012/0 ··· ory.html


Stem Bolt
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reply to darcilicious
Pilot is up on Hulu:

»www.hulu.com/watch/397518

The episode has been captured and is available on usenet. Maybe torrents also but I didn't check.


Alpha Phoenix
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Hulu... uhhhhh....yeah......Hulu.... that's where I'm getting my copy from.......


TwiztedZero
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said by Alpha Phoenix:

Hulu... uhhhhh....yeah......Hulu.... that's where I'm getting my copy from.......

pffft... xbmc is BOSS!


Packeteers
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reply to darcilicious
I just saw the pilot... and been there done that.

they lost me while; defying the laws of physics
I hated this, and hope it dies a half season death.

I don't even care what the back story was; some
posters here could write a better one themselves.


Octavean
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reply to darcilicious
I agree that anyone with a college level degree in the field of Science would have a really tough time with this show’s premise.



In addition the asthmatic brother story arc seems strained because I don’t see how someone with his condition would have realistically survived childhood without proper meds. He’s on borrowed time as it is.

I also don’t like that in the first episode they killed off two of the more seasoned actors “Tim Guinee” and (seemingly) “Elizabeth Mitchell”. The performance of Giancarlo Esposito was excellent though.


I’m getting a kind of General Omar Santiago type of vibe from the show and that’s not good since “Harsh Realm” didn’t even last a full season.

Still as I said before, sometimes you just have to overlook all this in order to enjoy the hot chick with a crossbow,…


darcilicious
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And the hot guy with the sword, whew!
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Alpha Phoenix
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reply to Octavean
Well back in the olden days, people with asthma did live into adulthood. There are lots of medicinal herbs that they were able to use.


Octavean
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I'm sure plenty did survive but certainly not all and recall that the average life expectancy in the era we are talking about was much lower then it is today even for healthy people.

Additional illnesses, which are inevitable, also likely cannot be properly treated and only serve to complicate the issue. Someone gets a cold or some other virus that is basically easy to recover from by anyone with a healthy set of lungs all is good and well. Not necessarily so for many with Asthma even when treated properly with modern medicines. Deaths with Asthma as a complication even today are not uncommon and I have seen people struggle with it where one medication wasn’t enough (they had to have additional meds to bolster the first).


Now add to that the stress of seeing your father killed in front of you (stress is a trigger for Asthma attacks), being physically attacked / abducted by the militia that killed your Father, freeing yourself by attacking your abductors and “running” away all without the benefits of meds,……no I don’t think so.

I would have bought it more had they taken the same route as with “The Walking Dead” where scavenging meds from pharmacies and hospitals was commonplace. Picking the bones of a dead society.

Disregarding the early stage of the show, I’ll also add that I don’t see the brother as being very significant in any way beyond giving the more interesting characters a goal.