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| Re: Upgrading Firmware on Thompson DCM475 Yup. Okay, so you're just clipping the JTAG thingie onto the flash chip, and extracting the contents over SPI, right? I'll see if I have something here to do that.
But yes, best would be for someone in Toronto to let you at their DCM-475 w/01.16 for ten minutes or so. Anyone? Teksavvy themselves? (ha ha).
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 | said by mlord:Yup. Okay, so you're just clipping the JTAG thingie onto the flash chip, and extracting the contents over SPI, right? I'll see if I have something here to do that. Yes, exactly. Anything that can read an SPI flash is good enough. Then there is a little work figuring out which part of the flash dump is the actual firmware, which should be very simple.
Technically, I don't know for sure that the DCM475 is SPI, but every other D3 modem I've seen is--sometimes 8 pin, but mostly 16 pin. -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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|  Flash chip from dcm475 02.08 |  chip markings |
Here's the flash chip, 16-pins: |
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3 edits | Best link I've found thus far for something resembling a datasheet for it:
»www.spansion.com/Support/Datashe···A_00.pdf
Edit, yeah that's the part all right. 3.0V 32mbit SPI NOR flash memory chip. |
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| I don't have any SPI masters at hand that I'm familiar with, but I do have a spare Arduino board here which undoubtedly groks SPI.
Otherwise I've got some USB->GPIO dongles that I can program to do the transfer. That might be quicker for me, because I've not bothered to learn the ins/outs of Arduino yet. |
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 1 edit | said by mlord:I don't have any SPI masters at hand that I'm familiar with, but I do have a spare Arduino board here which undoubtedly groks SPI.
Otherwise I've got some USB->GPIO dongles that I can program to do the transfer. That might be quicker for me, because I've not bothered to learn the ins/outs of Arduino yet. Might be a fun project, but I'm not sure it is worth the effort 
What we really need is somebody in Ottawa, and another in Kitchener/Waterloo, willing to do the flashing for other TPIA cable customers. Those people could be set up with a full set of equipment at reasonable cost. That would reduce this entire issue to annoyance level. -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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1 edit | That's more or less what I've got in mind. Once I get it working here, I have several friends with 02.08 modems that will likely need upgrades soon. And I'd be willing to take on any others that are needy and aware enough to find me. 
Curiously, the modem has a 4-pin header and a 4-pin socket near the flash chip, but it appears to be a 3V serial port for the processor rather than SPI for the flash. I should hook it up and see what it does at some point.
Doing a bit of simple math, my USB->GPIO adapter will be much too slow for the 32mbit flash contents, so I think I'll have to program the Arduino board to do it for me. They have a handy SPI library and tools, just gotta learn to use them. Might take a few days before I'm ready.
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 | reply to mlord said by mlord:Curiously, the modem has a 4-pin header and a 4-pin socket near the flash chip, but it appears to be a 3V serial port for the processor rather than SPI for the flash. Two different 4 pin ports?! Certainly one is a serial port. The firmware you are running will have locked console, but you'll be able to see some output from it. If there is a second.. I've no idea what that would be. Maybe an unused USB location... -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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1 edit |  Internal (serial?) connectors |
Not two ports, just two connectors for the same port. Strange.
Meanwhile, I've got my Arduino board running, with a very basic SPI routine clocking at 8MHz, hooked up to the logic analyzer. Looks good there -- the built-in SPI interpreter has no trouble understanding the address/data bytes.
From that I'll need to write some code to parameterize the address and data values, and to relay stuff over the serial/USB interface to a PC. Once that's working, it's pretty simple for me to whip up code on the PC to issue commands to the flash chip.
Not that I wanted an "easy" project or anything, but my Arduino is a 5V part, so I'll also have to add some level shifting to the circuit before I can finally hook it up to the 3V flash part in the modem.  |
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 | That two places for the same port thing must just be a manufacturing feature of some sort. The white header is on all RCA modems, but it is hard to connect and reconnect to in bulk. The black one near the edge would be much more convenient to use on the assembly line. I sure wish they had the black one on DCM425s, it would make my life easier! But ya, still strange..
I'm sure you already know about using Nokia DKU-5 cables to connect to 3.3V serial ports: »www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dku···m=&_ipg=
USBJTAG NT has data rates of 3/6/12MHz, so I'm guessing your 8MHz Arduino should be in the ball park for sure. Not a project I'd choose to take on myself, but I guess I'm just stuck in my analog past  -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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| said by Teddy Boom:USBJTAG NT has data rates of 3/6/12MHz, so I'm guessing your 8MHz Arduino should be in the ball park for sure. Not a project I'd choose to take on myself, but I guess I'm just stuck in my analog past  Heh, I'd probably have ordered a USBJTAG-NT by now if their website would stop crashing long enough to read more about it -- perhaps you've triggered a mini "slashdot effect" on them. 
But it's a good excuse to finally play with Arduino, and things are simpler than I expected there. I might buy a newer Arduino board though, to get 3V logic levels along with built in 12mbit USB. My current board can clock SPI at 8MHz, but is constricted on data transfers to/from the outside world: serial, 115200bps. But for now, I'll try and get it all working with what I have on hand -- it should still take less than 10 minutes to move 4MBytes over that serial link. |
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 | said by mlord:it should still take less than 10 minutes to move 4MBytes over that serial link. Some cable modems have 16MByte flash! -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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| I've now broken down and ordered an Arduino Pro Micro 3.3V board for this project. It should be here on Wednesday, and ought to simplify things: faster comms, and no need for level shifting.
Still looking for a cheaper source for the clip-on connector ($12 shipping for a $12 part??).
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| Update: things are moving along.
Got the 3.3V Arduino board today -- have to get it running soon. Also have all of the code written and tested (with logic analyzer) for dumping / programming flash on the Arduino.
Haven't found a more affordable source for the (excellent) recommended test clips, but just noticed that the EZ-Hook clips from the analyzer work very well on the in-circuit flash chip. So I'll just use those, since I've got lots of them on hand.
So I'm pretty close to hook-up time. Once I get the new 'duino going, the first task is to rip the 02.08 firmware a few times via different sequences, and do binary compares to judge the reliability of the communications. Then try erasing and reprogramming just the 02.08 firmware, and do readback/verify again.
If that all works, I'll get hold of the 02.16 modem and snatch a copy of the latest firmware from it.
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 | said by mlord:So I'm pretty close to hook-up time. Once I get the new 'duino going, the first task is to rip the 02.08 firmware a few times via different sequences, and do binary compares to judge the reliability of the communications. Then try erasing and reprogramming just the 02.08 firmware, and do readback/verify again.
If that all works, I'll get hold of the 02.16 modem and snatch a copy of the latest firmware from it. Install the USBJTAG software and take a look at how cable modem flash is organized on other modems, it will help a lot. If you need a flash dump from a modem, I can pass that along..
In particular, what you'll find is that some of the firmware will be human readable. Try searching for "DCM" and "docsis" in a hex editor. If you've read the firmware properly you should find strings like that. When my friend read a DCM425 chip for me, the bytes always came out flipped:If I load 425-1.bin into USBJTAG and then inspect image0 I see the string as follows: CD4M525-.2803.-1118032S-.Sib.n
Flip the bits and I get: DCM425-52.08.31-110823-SS.bin.
So maybe it is all just pairwise swapped?!?!  So I googled around a bit and found HEX Workshop, which conveniently has a byte swap feature. Not long after that I had a working ST52.08.31 image. »www.hexworkshop.com/
Unfortunately no Sayal in Ottawa: »www.sayal.com/zinc/zinc_contactus.asp But there must be an electronics supply place.. Not sure about test clips, but they aren't that obscure, so the odds can't be too bad. -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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 TSI GabePremium,VIP join:2007-01-03 Chatham, ON kudos:2 | That's called Endianness
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness
x86 are little endian
While in this case is likely MIPS based which is usually big endian. -- TSI Gabe - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. Authorized TSI employee ( »TekSavvy FAQ »Official support in the forum )
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5 | said by TSI Gabe:That's called Endianness Thanks! I've heard of little endian and big endian before, and I probably even dealt with the ideas a little 15 years ago, but I sure didn't make the connection.
I mentioned that I'm an analog guy right?  -- electronicsguru.ca/for_sale/Cablemodems |
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 The test setup.. forgot to disconnect the Logic Analyzer |
Unfortunately the new 3.3V Arduino w/USB died after just a minute or so of use. So for now, I'm back to the serial port version at 5V. Turns out level shifting is a non=issue. I was all set to do it, but just hooked things up without it for a trial, and it all works!
Dumping 32mbits of flash now.  ... 00009f50 00 6a 00 69 00 0a 50 70 61 6e 00 01 00 01 00 08 |.j.i..Ppan......| 00009f60 6d 46 57 4c 00 01 00 08 52 53 54 4c 00 01 00 19 |mFWL....RSTL....| 00009f70 54 48 4f 4d 00 01 00 00 07 44 43 4d 34 37 35 00 |THOM.....DCM475.| 00009f80 00 04 31 2e 30 00 00 00 4c 52 43 41 20 00 03 00 |..1.0...LRCA ...| 00009f90 00 00 00 44 43 4d 34 37 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |...DCM475.......| 00009fa0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| ...
More later, whenever it finishes (hours, likely). |
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