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<description><![CDATA[I_H8_Spam posted : Well, vote with your wallet. <br><br>backstage_no<br>@cgocable.net<br><br>change it to<br><br>backstage_no<br>@start.ca]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Yeah, try being a STEAM sale addict (amazing deals on a regular basis, God bless Gaben) and see how things go bandwidth wise.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I_H8_Spam posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1809892" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1809892');">RedMageX</a>:</said><p>Honestly, I'm on the Exp 8 package which is 40GIG/month and even with heavy Online Gaming with my Xbox (Battlefield 3, CoD: Black ops) I never ended up going over my usage for the month.<br><br>Honestly, the only way you can really get yourself into big trouble with usage is Bit Torrent programs in use if you aren't aware that they are still active.<br><br> </p></div>Lets take your normal gaming, now toss an update to your xbox dashboard, maybe a few 4.5gb downloaded Beta tests offered through Gold, a windows 7 patches, Steam maybe you buy 1 game, the others automatically update. Couple game trailers. <br><br>40GB is a drop in the bucket <br><small>--<br>AFK: Attack, fight, kill!! The healer is telling you to go pull mobs.<br>WTF: Way to fight! The healer is applauding your tactical genius</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:16:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[RedMageX posted : Honestly, I'm on the Exp 8 package which is 40GIG/month and even with heavy Online Gaming with my Xbox (Battlefield 3, CoD: Black ops) I never ended up going over my usage for the month.<br><br>Honestly, the only way you can really get yourself into big trouble with usage is Bit Torrent programs in use if you aren't aware that they are still active.<br><br>There's no misleading in the packages, an average user doing as they describe should have no issues with any overages, unless they or any of the PCs/Devices in the home are causing any traffic issues.<br><br>From what I understand from calling into Tech Support, the usage is read direct from the Modem, and considering how often i check, it's never been off at all.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Gone posted : I don't buy it.  Turbo 20 is more than sufficient for playing games, and is not a "lite" package.  If you're blowing your limit on a package like that merely by playing WoW, something is terribly wrong with the way Cogeco tiers their services - but we already knew that.<br><br>Express 4 on the other hand... it should still work, but you'd have a point with regards to what would be considered "lite" usage.  Not with Turbo 20, though.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[urbanriot posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1780183" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1780183');">Gone</a>:</said><p>Yeah, the patches hurt.  People bitch about voice too but that really shouldn't be an issue.<br><br>Still, it's a sad state of affairs when someone can't even play a game - something that has traditionally been low bandwidth usage - without going over a cap.  <br> </p></div>Truthfully I'm on the fence with that. As far as I'm concerned, if you're doing more than simply browsing the web and checking email, and you're regularly playing games online, you've just upgraded yourself beyond a 'lite' user. <br><br>The question is, is Cogeco misleading their customers with their package descriptions? <br><br>Turbo 20 - 80GB cap - "Downloading movies, videos or <B>online games</B> are part of your daily life? Other family members use the Internet? Subscribe to High Speed Internet Turbo 20!"<br><br>Ultimate 30 - 175GB cap -  "Passionate about movies, <B>games</B> and music? Choose the High Speed Internet Ultimate 30 package! This ultra-fast connection offers you more of the things you love!"<br><br>Ultimate 50 - 250GB cap - "Time is precious so why wait needlessly? Download movies, music and <B>games</B> in record time! Choose the High Speed Internet Ultimate 55 package for the ultimate in entertainment. Our fastest package."<br><br>So let's consider parents for a moment, who want to purchase or upgrade their package for their kid who wants to play World of Warcraft and some PS3 games.<br><br>Ultimate 30 and Ultimate 50 seem to be the most appropriate packages for gamers; however Turbo 20 makes references to online games and <I>other</I> family members, so it sounds like that's <I>the</I> best package for a family with a little timmy... but is an 80GB cap enough for him and "other family members"? ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Phorkster posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1809892" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1809892');">RedMageX</a>:</said><p>Haven't had any Overages since I quit playing World of Warcraft a year and a half ago.  I'm very vigilant about checking my usage at least 3 times a week, have my router properly password protected and I know exactly how much I use.<br><br>Can't be surprised when I'm completely on top of it and know how the usage works.  <br> </p></div>Thats not the point.  The point is on their end it shows 200GB, even if your end shows 150GB.  Believe me I fought the battle and it took a call to a 3rd party to dispute the charges.  The first level tech and his manager said everything was fine.  My router said 170GB their meter said 250GB.  $80+tx overage.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Gone posted : Yeah, the patches hurt.  People bitch about voice too but that really shouldn't be an issue.<br><br>Still, it's a sad state of affairs when someone can't even play a game - something that has traditionally been low bandwidth usage - without going over a cap.  :(]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[urbanriot posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1780183" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1780183');">Gone</a>:</said><p>That makes no sense because on a whole WoW uses very little bandwidth.<br> </p></div>Patch updates on a low bandwidth account could be an issue? Fast ping times but low caps. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RedMageX posted : Haven't had any Overages since I quit playing World of Warcraft a year and a half ago.  I'm very vigilant about checking my usage at least 3 times a week, have my router properly password protected and I know exactly how much I use.<br><br>Can't be surprised when I'm completely on top of it and know how the usage works.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[RedMageX posted : This forum seems to be a way to communicate about Cogeco services, get some advise/tech help.  <br><br>The thing about online communities or forums, is that the vocal minority is just that, the minority.  Most people on Cogeco don't have these extreme issues, at least from what I've experienced and the people I know who have Cogeco services.  <br><br>I've seen numerous examples on other forums (Like the World of Warcraft general forums) where the most vocal people on the forums are people with complaints or who are angry about some change or issues.  In the case given, it's usually due to gameplay balance, long waits for server outages etc.  But in all these cases, the grand majority of users who you don't hear about are happy with service.<br><br>This would be the same here, the grand majority of people more than likely don't know of the existance of this website and forums, but guaranteed that when you work in a Tech Support job, you would be lucky to see 0.1% of your incoming calls as a compliment or someone calling to say they are happy about their service.<br><br>All that being said, I am a Cogeco customer, I'm happy with the services I've had since I was a kid, and currently I can only count on one hand over the past 2 years at my current location when any issue has occurred with my services.  I don't agree with the pricing sometimes, and miss the days of the Unlimited usage days of Cogeco.<br><br>But enough of my wall of text,<br>Thanks for reading ^_^<br><br>P.S. People like Marcer are awesome, going above and beyond for customers is something I like to see for sure :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[shwing posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1267996" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1267996');">diskdocx</a>:</said><p>So I will post an update to my response from a month or so back, and an update wrt the initial yowling ;)<br><br>My year contract is now up with Cogeco. I have looked around at the various options, done some research, and explored the service alternatives.<br><br>I spoke with Cogeco, and indicated what my expectations were to continue as a customer.<br><br>While it did require a phone call, and 'haggling' if you will, we have decided to renew for another year. Our overall fees are down, we dropped a couple of redundant TV packages, moved the internet package up to the 30 meg tier, while getting it discounted to $45/mo, and had the phone costs dropped to a little over $20.<br><br>I am happier with the cost value, and while still not completely satisfied with the TV quality, it is not bothersome enough to warrant a switch.<br><br>From a total cost perspective, splitting our services with 3 providers would have been significantly more costly.<br><br>I would not go to Bell, and even with Tek (which I have a basic account with), I cannot get the speed or stability that I need from a primarily line. Cogeco has always provided a good quality connection, and I would have expected the same from Start.<br><br>So I have traded off about 100gig/mo of data (which I currently don't need), for a cost savings of $15/mo - factoring in the modem cost, which at $150 ultimately ended up being the deal breaker with Start.<br><br>Perhaps in another year the options will be different.<br><br>Am I 100% satisfied? No, but I think that increasing competition will ultimately improve the cost offerings, and while the customer service is not what it once was, the company is bigger, and in many ways the same scenario is playing out with Tek, and likely will with Start if it continues to grow.<br> </p></div>Right On!<br><small>--<br>Party On Garth! ... Party On Wayne !<br>              Shwing!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Davesnothere posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1267996" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1267996');">diskdocx</a>:</said><p>So I will post an update to my response from a month or so back, and an update wrt the initial yowling ;)<br><br>My year contract is now up with Cogeco. I have looked around at the various options, done some research, and explored the service alternatives.<br><br>I spoke with Cogeco, and indicated what my expectations were to continue as a customer.... </p></div>&nbsp;<br><b>$45 per month for 30/2 service ?</b><br><br>NICE ! (albeit the 175GB cap, no doubt)<br><br>Just before I went to START, I tried to beat Cogeco down, and they wouldn't even budge a dollar.<br><br>Their 'Retention' department parroted "Sorry, gotta be with us for a whole year before we can offer you any deals."<br><br>In MY observation, the cart was juxtapositioned with the horse.<br><br>And this in particular surprised me, as they had then just snail-mailed us all a promo offering 30/2 for $60 per month instead of the $70 which I had been paying, if I simply agreed to lock in for a year, and it read that it did not matter whether you were an existing or new subscriber, and no bundle was required (so I would have qualified).<br><br>This hard copy promo was issued around March or April.<br><br>I asked the rep what they knew of such a promo and they shrugged their shoulders over the phone.<br><br>THAT sort of stuff is what annoys me about Cogeco.<br><br>They have a robust network, but their CS is so inconsistent (and some policies so insane), and it should not be ME who trains the reps who have fallen thru the cracks.<br><br>....UNLESS of course they were to offer me a decent paying job to do so. :p<br><br><small>--<br><br>We have only 2 things about which to worry :<br>(1) That things may never get back to normal<br>(2) That they already HAVE !<br>-<br><b>START Forum &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/cover,2941">Start Communications</A></b><br>Or you can still use Canadian Broadband.<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[diskdocx posted : So I will post an update to my response from a month or so back, and an update wrt the initial yowling ;)<br><br>My year contract is now up with Cogeco. I have looked around at the various options, done some research, and explored the service alternatives.<br><br>I spoke with Cogeco, and indicated what my expectations were to continue as a customer.<br><br>While it did require a phone call, and 'haggling' if you will, we have decided to renew for another year. Our overall fees are down, we dropped a couple of redundant TV packages, moved the internet package up to the 30 meg tier, while getting it discounted to $45/mo, and had the phone costs dropped to a little over $20.<br><br>I am happier with the cost value, and while still not completely satisfied with the TV quality, it is not bothersome enough to warrant a switch.<br><br>From a total cost perspective, splitting our services with 3 providers would have been significantly more costly.<br><br>I would not go to Bell, and even with Tek (which I have a basic account with), I cannot get the speed or stability that I need from a primarily line. Cogeco has always provided a good quality connection, and I would have expected the same from Start.<br><br>So I have traded off about 100gig/mo of data (which I currently don't need), for a cost savings of $15/mo - factoring in the modem cost, which at $150 ultimately ended up being the deal breaker with Start.<br><br>Perhaps in another year the options will be different.<br><br>Am I 100% satisfied? No, but I think that increasing competition will ultimately improve the cost offerings, and while the customer service is not what it once was, the company is bigger, and in many ways the same scenario is playing out with Tek, and likely will with Start if it continues to grow.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[shwing posted : I am amazed at how far my original post has gone, I do like Cogeco and this thread should be about good service...not wining   just my $0.02<br><small>--<br>Party On Garth! ... Party On Wayne !<br>              Shwing!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dillyhammer posted : Yowling = sad<br>Caterwauling = horny<br><br> :o<br><br>I suppose either could apply to the noises coming out of Audet. Yowling over the screwin' they took in Portugal. Caterwauling for layin' the pipe to their customers to pay for it.<br><br>Mike<br><small>--<br>Cogeco - The New UBB Devil -&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r26817647-Burloak-Usage-Based-Billing-Nightmare">[Burloak] Usage Based Billing Nightmare</A><br>Make The Switch - &raquo;<A HREF="http://openmedia.ca/switch" >openmedia.ca/switch</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Davesnothere posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1702542" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1702542');">dillyhammer</a>:</said><p>Getting back to what the OP was originally yowling about.... </p></div>&nbsp;<br>YOWLING<br><br>Hmmmm....<br><br>Is that anything like CATerwauling ? :) :) :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Davesnothere posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/353098" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=353098');">kim</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/520919" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520919');">No_Strings</a>:</said><p>I'm keeping a close watch on both of you <b>wabbow-wousews</b>.<br><br>;)<br> </p></div>And I'm keeping an eye on you, <b>wascowy wabbit</b>.<br> </p></div>&nbsp;<br>FIFY<br><br>Correct <b>FUDDish</b> is now in effect. :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kim posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/520919" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=520919');">No_Strings</a>:</said><p>I'm keeping a close watch on both of you rabble-rousers.<br><br>;)<br> </p></div>And I'm keeping an eye on you wascally wabbit.<br><small>--<br>Fluent in 3 languages: English, Sarcasm and Sexual Innuendo.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dillyhammer posted :  :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:43:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[No_Strings posted : I'm keeping a close watch on both of you rabble-rousers.<br><br>;)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:22:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[urbanriot posted : Didn't you already answer your own question? <br><br><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1702542" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1702542');">dillyhammer</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1780183" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1780183');">Gone</a>:</said><p>I get the feeling that he involved a lawyer and the lawyer told him to keep his mouth shut.</p></div>That is my sense as well.<br><br>Mike<br> </p></div>A moderator locked the thread and moderators lock based on legitimate requests so clearly there was a reason to shut it. Maybe it was simply the case of people beating a dead horse. <br><br>The OP started the thread, thanked people a few posts later, then it was mostly <I>you</I> commenting continually, so it's possible the moderator simply felt the dillyhammer thread had run its course? <br><br>I believe commenting on moderation is against forum rules as well, so we're both in trouble now... ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:12:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[dillyhammer posted : Getting back to what the OP was originally yowling about....<br><br>I don't think this forum is/should be for Cogeco haters only. Neither should it be reserved for shills and official support requests.<br><br>If Cogeco needs a forum where they can go about supporting users and not have to suffer public opinion (good or bad) then they should contact DSLr proper and set about securing their own official support forum.<br><br>Other than that, subject to DSLr terms of use and so on, the forum should be for anything Cogeco. Good or bad.<br><br>Mostly bad though.<br><br> :p<br><br>Speaking of which, why the hell is the &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r26817647-Burloak-Usage-Based-Billing-Nightmare">[Burloak] Usage Based Billing Nightmare</A> thread locked?  That outrage should propagate forever. Seriously. Any telecom company with the <b>audet</b>acity to bill a consumer for $1500 should be on the carpet for it for all time.<br><br>Mike<br><small>--<br>Cogeco - The New UBB Devil -&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r26817647-Burloak-Usage-Based-Billing-Nightmare">[Burloak] Usage Based Billing Nightmare</A><br>Make The Switch - &raquo;<A HREF="http://openmedia.ca/switch" >openmedia.ca/switch</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[funny posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1409678" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1409678');">peterboro</a>:</said><p>I've been with Cogeco since the the first month they arrived in Peterborough and have been happy with the speed and support has been excellent.<br><br>I have posted this numerous times. My only issue now is their cap which I am living with.<br><br>Unlike others in here I have an excellent alternative ISP to go to that Cogeco can't match with regular pricing but I haven't been driven to switch yet. <br> </p></div>and im with teksavvy and could do up to 1600GB of traffic <br>at less rates and how do i know cause two guys downstairs have cogeco, pay more and are capped at what 80GB a month ROFL....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[N0_Nam3 posted : i hear that, they got rid of their local call centers it seems, none of them knowing that there is congestion in our area have to hear it from a tech. and still 7months later still no fix being told i may have to wait till September now. hopefully when that time comes and our node is fixed bye bye cogeco]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Last Parade posted : My main gripe has been, for as long as I can remember, the lack of access to high-level CSRs from customers that know what they're doing. Then came UBB and higher prices, and that was the final straw for me. There are a lot of well-meaning employees in this forum. For me, a TPIA provider works best because it's literally like 1 or 2 people you end up dealing with and you get satisfaction quicker with lower prices.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jubenvi posted : I don't hate Cogeco (although I think their caps are terrible as they try to protect their own On Demand service), but here's an example how they look poor compared to other providers.<br><br>I have my services all essentially with Cogeco TV, phone, Internet), although Internet is now through a Cogeco reseller Start.ca<br><br>Last week I was having  constant repeated interruption of the service.<br><br>On saturday i emalled technical support to both Cogeco and Start.ca<br>In the email I explained the situation and how I couldn't call because the phone service was out and that I didn't have a cel phone, only data access through an iPad.<br><br>I received an email back from Start.ca within hours of suggestions and next step.<br><br>I finally received an email from Cogeco this morning (Wednesday), with the message "problem best supported by technical representative, please call us"<br><br>This email is sent from their web site and supposably to technical support already! Four days later to boot and I explained no phone, they can't even look at my service remotely?<br><br>So although their CSR have always been friendly, you can see how compared to Start.ca there support is less than ideal. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[WarningU2 posted : It appears to have become that way unfortunately.  I've been a Cogeco user since the beginning and although there are bumps occassionally I have no reason to "hate" Cogeco.  I actually like their service most of the time.   Then again I have never been overcharged for bandwidth.  What is frustrating is the slow fee creep, lack of service and bad attitude (sometimes) from their store locations, poor On Demand service and lack of movies at times, and not having as good an HD channel line up as Bell.   Speaking of HD channel line up ... Direct TV in the states is amazing.   Oh if they were here I would jump ship in heart beat.   But back to the forum ... it used to be a place that people could get answers to technical questions ... i see less of that now and more ranting.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robman50 posted : Yeah I am okay with the prices but I don't like that the service keeps having problems with such a high bill. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cablesmurfet posted : Cogeco isn't the only telecom company to jack their prices up.  They all do it from time to time.  Yes, it is annoying, but it is part of service subscription.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[robman50 posted : Just to add what my thoughts are, if Cogeco did not have so many problems and stopped jacking up their prices than this forum would have more positive feedback.  ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Cravon posted : I'm happy with the business account I have with them, but I don't like to talk about it since I feel like I am gaming the system by using it to avoid UBB.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kabes posted : I used cogeco in the past and will agree that in terms of stability, uptime, and consistency they were fantastic.<br><br>Aside from that they are overpriced (compare 30Mbps/175GB @ $60 vs. 28Mbps/300GB @ $47 with no overage fees at TSI) and the caps were awful. From what I hear since I left they removed the $50 overage cap from the docsis3 service. That is downright scary. I do not miss my massive cogeco bills, that's for sure. Service wise it was top notch, but still not worth the premium. I used it because I simply had no other choice at the time (crappy DSL line that could only sync to 3meg).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cablesmurfet posted : I agree.  I like Cogeco.  Even though I switched to Shaw Direct for my TV, I still have phone and Internet from Cogeco, and am satisfied with them as a company.  Any problems we have had have been solved, and the CSRs are friendly and willing to help.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Paolo posted : this form is for people who like cogeco too.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vuarra posted : This forum is about Cogeco.<br><br>My beefs with them are that their data cap is too dang low.  Everything else about them was excellent, but I could not afford the overages that they were charging.<br><br>I'm glad you like what you are paying for.  At the end of the day, that is all that matters.  Having said that, not every one here is going to agree with you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Davesnothere posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1267996" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1267996');">diskdocx</a>:</said><p>....So, to answer your question, no it is not all about hate. But a lot of us are frustrated over years of what can only be called abuse. Lack of options have led to 'just having to put up with it'. Now that options are out there, many are leaving. <br><br>I am glad you are happy with your cable internet. But consider not just the service, but the price you are paying for it, and make sure you have critically appraised the options. You may come to realize that you aren't as satisfied as you think.<br> </p></div>&nbsp;<br>I have already done much of what you describe (including the change to START, which so far is very encouraging), but I do not have the extra cash to spare as I'm cash poor right now - but THAT's just the point.<br><br><b>With increasing costs on SOMETHING nearly every time one wipes one's arse</b> (and this includes HST on things in Ontario which never had it before, such as home heat & electric, & gasoline), one simply is FORCED to be more budget conscious, even if one was otherwise COMPLETELY in love with everything else about the various telecom services to which one already subscribes.<br><br>And paying over $200 per month for combined telecom services ?<br><br>It makes me think that I should start a consultant company which analyses and advises folks on how to best save and still keep a reasonable service arrangement, tailored to each particular community and to the client's needs.<br><br>I wonder how many folks would pay me a one-time fee of $50 to review their telecom bills and propose for them a better deal ?<br><br>Hmmmm....<br><br><small>--<br><br>We have only 2 things about which to worry :<br>(1) That things may never get back to normal<br>(2) That they already HAVE !<br>-<br><b>START Forum &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/cover,2941">Start Communications</A></b><br>Or you can still use Canadian Broadband.<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[diskdocx posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1735465" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1735465');">lockejcole</a>:</said><p>Now do get it straight before you drop in here saying I claim "all is well in cogeco-land" ... I never said any such thing. I said -MY- service was golden, and said that there should be room on this forum for both positive and negative topics without the positive ones being overrun by people encouraging people who are satisfied to jump ship any way they can.<br><br>I am a regular on these boards and I have read all the above linked topics, it does not change the fact that my internet is stable, fast and reliable. The three things I need it to be. I am simply tired of the handful of haters (many of which are not even subscribers to Cogeco service anymore) who think its a conquest to drown any sunshine on the boards. Can we not have some balance and let people be happy if they are happy?<br><br>In the end its your choice to hate Cogeco, disagree with their policies or whatever, but its also our choice to stick with it if we are satisfied with our services. I am not blind to whats going on, it simply does not affect me or the service I have gotten thus far.<br> </p></div>As with anything in life, you have to decide what works best for you. I would agree that looking solely at the quality of my internet service, Cogeco is doing just fine. My speeds are as advertised, there are some slow downs during peak hours, but nothing which impacts service, and I can't remember when I last had outage.<br><br>All positives.<br><br>Now in terms of value, as a 10+ yr subscriber, my value has been consistently dropping. I get less now than I did 10 yrs ago, but am paying considerably more. 5 yrs ago I wouldn't have considered moving to somewhere that Cogeco service wasn't available...this time next year I may well not have any Cogeco services left.<br><br>I would also add that Cogeco is not just an internet provider. <br><br>I pay close to $2500/yr for a fairly basic 3 pack - phone, 14meg internet and 3pack HD TV. That's a lot of money.<br><br>The phone is standard fare. Nothing exceptional, but meeting expectations. The Cable internet is expensive for what I get, but much better than any alternatives, so it has been bearable. The TV service is horrendous. Despite paying for the channels, I end up downloading the x264 caps of the shows we watch as the pixellation is unbearable. Probably should cancel it, but there are programs that the wife and kids watch real time.<br><br>When our contract is up this summer, I will probably go Cogeco free. I already intend to change to Start for internet - I will be getting 4x the data cap and 2x the speed for the same amount. That just makes business sense.<br><br>Not sure if we really even need a land line, but may keep a basic service, not sure with who yet.<br><br>TV will be looking to port to Shaw Satellite as a trial. Similar pricing but more channels and better quality.<br><br>So, to answer your question, no it is not all about hate. But a lot of us are frustrated over years of what can only be called abuse. Lack of options have led to 'just having to put up with it'. Now that options are out there, many are leaving. <br><br>I am glad you are happy with your cable internet. But consider not just the service, but the price you are paying for it, and make sure you have critically appraised the options. You may come to realize that you aren't as satisfied as you think.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[urbanriot posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1791209" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1791209');">cog_biz_user</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1095016" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1095016');">urbanriot</a>:</said><p>What's wrong with their mail / DNS servers? I've <STRIKE>never</STRIKE> had an issue with <STRIKE>either</STRIKE> one. <br> </p></div>If you run your own, and use Cogeco as an outgoing mail relay (as you're supposed to), occasionally you'll run into problems where they don't want to send your outgoing mail.  One day your queue will get backed up, and it's because Cogeco's DNS servers can't resolve any addresses for hosts on your domain.  I had to reconfigure my DNS server from scratch 3 times because of it.<br> </p></div>Ah, yes, I was expecting some kind of fabricated issue but I completely agree with you there, at least concerning their mail server. I often have email bounced back to me for no legitimate reasons, you can send from any other email service and even your own Exchange server, but forward through Cogeco and you'll get a <U>late</U> return. <br><br>My favourite / most annoying bounce is when you email someone and refer to antivirus software and your email is bounced back the next day due to virus like activity. "Ohhhh, you want to give someone advice on their infection or protection? Too bad, we don't let our customers do that... but we won't tell you until the next day!"]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jinzo posted : I am an undesirable.  I had Cogeco Cable since 1998, and left them in 2009-10 when they switched to the UBB model.  Here were some of the issues I had:<br><br>- In 1998 I had a Lancity Modem which gave the user 60 KB/sec of bandwidth this was great for a few years.<br>- 2001-2 or so they pulled my LanCity and replaced with the Samslug.  This sucker got 3 MB/s down but could only upload at 12 KB/sec.  This created a huge backlash which resulted in Cogeco holding a town hall meeting about this.  In the townhall meeting they told us to bad and live with it.  So you can already see how this company listens to their customers.<br>- 2004 I moved to Burlington and took my Cogeco cable modem with me.  I had never ending issue with the Modem going up and down.  Got worse when it rained.<br>- 2009-10 They annouced UBB policy.  Once I saw this and the contant price increases I decided enough is enough.  Changed over to Teksavvy 5 Meg unlimited which saved me 12 bucks a month.  I believe I was on Cogeco 10 meg plan at that time.<br>- 2010-11 My parents went over the limit and got nailed by UBB.  This happen when they weren't even home for the month.  So I switched them to Teksavvy as well.  Had a good arguement with the client services about this and in the end they didn't even attempt to retain us.  Yes we still got billed the overage.<br><br>I just got tired of hititng this BS Usuage Base caps.  I used to hit Cogeco hard cap which left me with no internet for weeks.  Once they decided on UBB the writing was on the wall.<br><br>UBB is about making money.  I just don't want to spend time checking Cogeco Usuage meter to insure I don't go over.  Nor do i want to sit on a phone and dispute this numbers with them.<br><br>I have had my ups and down but the UBB decision pissed me off.  Enough is enough.  I switched to Teksavvy, and had some ups and downs but atleast they push for higher caps.  They switched from 200 to 300 gigs.  They atleast look after their customers, so until Cogeco re-thinks there policy I will never go back.]]></description>
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