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Monroeville, PA | reply to Krisnatharok
Re: Gaming build for teenager Newegg has a hell of a sale going on right now:
»www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBund···.1019095
$500 + $200 for video card + $80 for HDD = Same price for way better performance, SSD included.
I've used that case as well. It isn't the highest quality, nor is it the lowest. |
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kudos:8 | It's a good deal, but not for us.
The CPU is $70 cheaper at Microcenter, we don't need the ram ($43) and I'm not sure he's getting an SSD ($65), which sort of wipes out the $100 savings they're giving you on the bundle.
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Gordo74Premium
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Monroeville, PA | said by Krisnatharok:It's a good deal, but not for us.
The CPU is $70 cheaper at Microcenter, we don't need the ram ($43) and I'm not sure he's getting an SSD ($65), which sort of wipes out the $100 savings they're giving you on the bundle.
Lucky you. No MC near me 
Although, if a MC is near you, don't they have the CPU+Mobo bundle for Intel or AMD that could cut your costs? |
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kudos:8 | reply to Krisnatharok
Updated build:
• CPU: Core i5 3450 3.1GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $150
• Mobo: ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $85
• Memory: 8 GB (4x 2 GB) DDR3 1600 G.Skill (already own it)
• GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 - $275
• Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM - $100
• Power Supply: Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-650-M 650W80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular - $100
• Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - $20
• Computer Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $48
• Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM - $100
Total: $878 (after MIRs)
I'll see how much he wants to spend and possibly look at an SSD as well.
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The mobo deal of the month is a Biostar, and I really don't want to touch any of their products.
edit: There is a Gigabyte mobo for $100, but the deal also *requires* you buy the i5-3570k, other models don't get you a price break on the mobos. |
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Gordo74Premium
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Monroeville, PA | reply to Krisnatharok
I like the updated build better. I still think an SSD would make the experience much snappier, but I digress.
The video card has me thinking. You could either spend the $275 on the 570, which, admittedly above, is a great bang for the buck, but if it's just going to be a single monitor system, I would think the 7850 would be a much better value, especially because it overclocks like hell, uses less power, runs cooler, uses only 1 power PCIE connector and is at the level of the 570 in most games for ~$50 cheaper.
You can't go wrong either way, just trying to help shave a few more bucks. |
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kudos:8 | I'll take a look at some 7850s. I haven't seen a lot on the 7000 series yet and have been waiting for the August price drop. |
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Gordo74Premium
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Monroeville, PA | reply to Krisnatharok
Here's a step up from the 7850 that performs slightly better (not enough to warrant a second PCIE connector, but it's there... I'm no engineer though). Good deal. $225
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···=rewrite
Good charts here: »www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rad···-15.html
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kudos:8 | I may end up waiting two weeks for a GTX 660 Ti. Price is supposed to be in the mid 200s and it beats the GTX 580 on several benches. |
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Monroeville, PA | said by Krisnatharok:I may end up waiting two weeks for a GTX 660 Ti. Price is supposed to be in the mid 200s and it beats the GTX 580 on several benches.
You have solid benches? I'm looking to pick it up to replace my 5870.
Edit: Nvm, found some. Looks intriguing. If it is ~$250, I'll probably pick one up. |
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kudos:8 | »www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/n···dex.html |
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Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to Krisnatharok
This is very very interesting! A 4.2ghx 4170(whats the difference between that and the 4100, other than the base speed and cpu wattage?) can go toe to toe with stock 2500k and 3570k. While I still love my 4.5ghz 2500k, and would prefer it to that any day of the week(faster compile times ftw), thats pretty freaking amazing.
I have a friend who got a 4100 because micro center had a free mobo deal with the purchase of it(at the time they were out of phenom II), shes been wanting to overclock and get more out of it and this looks promising. I assume that test uses the stock cooler, is is it the same one that comes on the rest of the bulldozers or is it different because of the high clock speed? |
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kudos:8 | Not sure, I think I am going to stick with an Ivy Bridge i5, but I'd assume you can get some good numbers out of the 4170, especially if you get a CM Hyper 212+ ($30). That cooler should allow you to push close to 5 GHz.
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said by Krisnatharok:I may end up waiting two weeks for a GTX 660 Ti. Price is supposed to be in the mid 200s and it beats the GTX 580 on several benches.
+1
Go for the GTX 660 ti.
$300 for GTX 660 ti. Go for it.
»videocardz.com/34116/pny-geforce···-for-299 |
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kudos:8 | $300? Damn. I was hoping it'd be cheaper. There are GTX 580s going for that cheap on Amazon. |
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kudos:8 | reply to Krisnatharok
Final build:
• Processor: Core i5 3450 3.1GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $150
• Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $95
• Memory: 8 GB (4x 2 GB) DDR3 1600 G.Skill (already own it)
• Video Card: ZOTAC ZT-50203-10M GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 - $200(!!!)
Hard Drive
• Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $100
• Power Supply: Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified, Modular Design Active-PFC Power Supply - $85
• Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X - $20
• Computer Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $48
• Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM - $100
Total, shipped + tax: $847.65
Talk about one beast of a computer on a budget.
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HD 7870 > GTX 570 tho, you do lose physx, but you get a little bit higher frames, more steam processor, more ram, and save money on the long run. Because it use less power.
»www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=518
DIAMOND 7870PE52G Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit
$254.99 after mail-in rebate
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14103208
MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit
$259.99 after mail-in rebate card
+ FREE GIFT: MSI Gift - Dirt Showdown Free Coupon (value:$59.99)
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14127662
FYI, That CPU you link from Microcenter. I think it is only the chip only. Doesn't come with stock heatsink fan. |
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kudos:8 | And it's $55 more. Its G3D score is also a decent chunk lower than the 570. AMD does pull away at higher resolutions but with a single monitor the the difference will be imperceptible.
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kudos:8 | reply to Krisnatharok
Everything arrived yesterday after being shipped Monday. Verified and zero'd the HDD per Koitsu's fantastic post here. The Rosewill case is certainly decent for $48, but the space behind the backplate is virtually non-existent for cable management--cables fit very tightly, pressed up against the side of the case. I'll try to post pictures later on. There are certainly no complaints on the tool-less 3.5" and 5.25" bays.
The Asrock UEFI is very pretty and allows for some very easy maintenance. I ensured the SATA controller was set to AHCI (it was by default) and loaded the XMP 1600 memory profile because, while my memory was DDR3-1600, it was set by default to 1333. I don't have the pleasure of having XMP support on my x58 mobo, so this was certainly a joy to use.
All in all, everything came in working order and set up easily. I didn't get an aftermarket CPU cooler, and while I haven't stress-tested the rig yet, the i5 is idling at 34-38 C with the stock cooler, which is high, IMO. We'll see what burn-in temps are, but it appears my Prolimatech Megahalems, which was designed for 1156/1366 socket will fit on 1155, so I may throw that + two Yate Loon fans on the CPU.
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| said by Krisnatharok:the i5 is idling at 34-38 C with the stock cooler, which is high, IMO. Being the middle of summer you really think so? |
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