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Re: 4 year lag? The FCC isn't going to regulate the price of a private company's product. Maybe if there weren't multiple cellular carriers, but there are. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | Yes there are multiple wireless carriers. From Wikipedia here's the top 8 by customer count (I added the percentage column*):
Verizon Wireless (108.7 million, 31.89%)
AT&T Mobility (103.2 million, 30.27%)
Sprint Nextel (55 million, 16.13%)
T-Mobile USA (34 million, 9.97%)
TracFone Wireless (19 million, 5.57%)
MetroPCS (9 million, 2.64%)
U.S. Cellular (6 million, 1.76%)
Cricket Wireless (6 million, 1.76%)
If this is really a competitive environment, why would the FTC prohibit the merger between AT&T and T-Mobile? That would still leave what looks like plenty of carriers. Granted, had the merger been approved the top two would have gone from owning 62% of the market to over 70% of the market but there's plenty of other carriers and seemingly, plenty of competition. So why did they prohibit the merger?
* Percentages are skewed since all subscribers are not represented. The top 8 claim 340M subscribers. The current US pop is 314M. 340M may include international subscribers and business users who have separate work and personal phones. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by rradina:Yes there are multiple wireless carriers. From Wikipedia here's the top 8 by customer count (I added the percentage column*):
Verizon Wireless (108.7 million, 31.89%)
AT&T Mobility (103.2 million, 30.27%)
Sprint Nextel (55 million, 16.13%)
T-Mobile USA (34 million, 9.97%)
TracFone Wireless (19 million, 5.57%)
MetroPCS (9 million, 2.64%)
U.S. Cellular (6 million, 1.76%)
Cricket Wireless (6 million, 1.76%)
If this is really a competitive environment, why would the FTC prohibit the merger between AT&T and T-Mobile? That would still leave what looks like plenty of carriers. Granted, had the merger been approved the top two would have gone from owning 62% of the market to over 70% of the market but there's plenty of other carriers and seemingly, plenty of competition. So why did they prohibit the merger?
* Percentages are skewed since all subscribers are not represented. The top 8 claim 340M subscribers. The current US pop is 314M. 340M may include international subscribers and business users who have separate work and personal phones.
Well let's assume that people like BABIES don't have cell phones. In fact let assume most kids under 5 don't. That's 7% of the population.
Also there are many people that can't get most of those carriers. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | What's your point? |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | My point is that you claim that these companies have a smaller share the US population than they actually do since 5 year old can't have cell phones. |
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 mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | said by BF69:My point is that you claim that these companies have a smaller share the US population than they actually do since 5 year old can't have cell phones. You still keep quoting company rules, and aren't using your brain to think about 3rd party resellers that only care about keeping their stand open because the economy is crap.
As far as proof, I already proved it with screen shots, not my fault you don't believe it.
The way this was done:
Reseller put Samsung Galaxy S3 on 3rd line I have on family plan with 2GB of data to use so I could get upgrade discount price, after completed transaction reseller put S3 on my line to look like I bought the phone full price, reseller then put my old (not even feature) phone back on 3rd line, and BAM used upgrade to get S3 and kept unlimited 
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | reply to BF69
The percentages are based on the market size claimed by the top 8 carriers (340M). Wikipedia determined the top 8 by using numbers claimed directly by the providers or from various news sources.
To further explain the asterisk I included in my OP, it's a caveat to make sure the reader considers:
1) It doesn't include all providers. It's limited to the market defined by the top 8. Since the smallest provider listed has 6M subscribers, if there are 20 more significant carriers each with 1M customers, the total size of the market is actually 360M. This would cause Verizon's percentage to go from ~32% to ~30%.
2) The US population is only 314M and therefore the providers must be including international subscribers and/or a lot of folks have more than one account since it's impossible to claim 340M subscribers when there are only 314M people which, as you cited, includes babies. 
I included the reference to the US population to make sure the reader specifically did not draw your conclusion but I could have made that more clear.
If you are interested, here's the reference to the Wikipedia article:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un···roviders |
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