 GbcueP.E.Premium
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Santa Rosa, CA
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1 edit | Jeep Grand Cherokee almost rolls over during maneuver tests Also pops 7 tires on 3 different test vehicles at ~40mph.
»www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest-part4/
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYFLb8WMGM |
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BobAccount deleted
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Ha, ha... Guy in the passenger seat wearing a bicycle helmet. |
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GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | said by Bob:Ha, ha... Guy in the passenger seat wearing a bicycle helmet.
You'd think how safe modern cars are, you wouldn't even wear a helmet. I'm surprised the driver isn't wearing one... |
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Well if your sister di.......never mind. |
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 TA63ST215WPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-23
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Wow, those things really blow! |
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 Lurch77BBR BullyPremium
join:2001-11-22
Oconto, WI
kudos:4 | reply to Gbcue
Why do these people think they can ignore science. Tall, narrow vehicle, driven to extremes, and it flips! Who would have ever though? If you're concerned, buy a Civic. |
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| said by Lurch77:Why do these people think they can ignore science. Tall, narrow vehicle, driven to extremes, and it flips! Who would have ever though? If you're concerned, buy a Civic.
+1
There were some maneuvers I've done without fear in my Ford Maverick, LTD, or Cutlass Supreme, but would never even attempt in my Bronco. And on the other hand, there are other things that I can do in my Bronco that would never even think to try in the other cars.
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The test was rigged. The rumor is that they had overloaded teh vehicle and maybe played with the adjustable suspension.
Once the Chrysler engineers showed up at the scene, the magazine could not duplicate the results. I hear they tried over and over agin to duplicate this result. This same model vehicle recently passed the German "moose test". |
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Lurch77BBR BullyPremium
join:2001-11-22
Oconto, WI
kudos:4 | Seems I remember this story. The last time the author was Consumer Reports and the character was a Samurai.
»www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20···st-faked |
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GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | reply to neonturbo
said by neonturbo:The test was rigged. The rumor is that they had overloaded teh vehicle and maybe played with the adjustable suspension.
Once the Chrysler engineers showed up at the scene, the magazine could not duplicate the results. I hear they tried over and over agin to duplicate this result. They popped 7 tires instead. Still safe? |
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 The PigI know you want to be mePremium
join:2009-09-11 | reply to Gbcue
Not seeing the tires blow I don't know if and how it happened!
I own a 2005 jeep liberty and I would say it is not the safest car around but not the worst either!
What year where these test done?
How many times in your lifetime will you have to do a maneuver like that video shows? |
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Lurch77BBR BullyPremium
join:2001-11-22
Oconto, WI
kudos:4 | Click the link in my post above. It was rigged to fail. |
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said by Gbcue:They popped 7 tires instead. Still safe?
Not knowing what the tires or the pressures were, it's not possible to say anything without some additional background information. Given a rigged test, I wouldn't be surprised if the tires weren't 100% to begin with.
One thing I can say that over 25 years and probably well over 500k miles I had 3 sudden blowouts and one tire that partly separated from the rim. Of the blowouts, one tire was deformed and had some visible theread separation, but I was too cheap to replace it (was a poor student at that time) the other was a well worn tire that picked up a nail, and a third one was unexplained. The partial separation was caused by a very high speed (smoking) turn and the tire was most likely underinflated to begin with.
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 VegasManAre We There Yet?Premium
join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL | reply to No_Strings
Llama, Llama, Llama
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GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | reply to aurgathor
Since the Jeep-Chrysler engineers were right there, I'm sure the tires were properly inflated. |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | I would think the 100% comment on the tires from aurgathor is not only possible inflation issues but with wear and tear on the tires. the Chrysler engineers were only there to try and confirm the results - which they could not do according to the link by Lurch77.
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 Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.Premium,VIP
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kudos:18 | reply to Lurch77
Someone at allpar.com needs to fact check before publishing then as it was Suzuki but the article said Isuzu in grave error.
»www.allpar.com/news/index.php/20···st-faked
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The situation seemed similar to the Consumer Reports affair with Isuzu, where a vehicle that had passed the magazine’s tests was retested to bring failure, with different testing equipment than competitors (outriggers which Isuzu charged were partly responsible for the results).
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Lurch77BBR BullyPremium
join:2001-11-22
Oconto, WI
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2 edits | Yeah, I read that, and had the same thought as you. It was not Isuzu.
Like the test this article is about, it was pretty clear it was rigged. Consumer reports had to try over two dozen time to make it get up on two wheels. There used to be a video, now removed from the internet, where you could hear the Consumer reports people egging the driver one, shouting things like, "Come on! Flip it!". And when it finally did go onto two wheel, everyone started cheering. |
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cahiattPremium
join:2001-03-21
Smyrna, GA | reply to Gbcue
That thing does look a little wild coming through that test. But I'm sure there are a lot of factors involved. I was searching for it but can't find it. I recall just a few years ago a journalist flipping over a brand new BMW 3 series doing a similar lane change maneuver. Not a car I would expect to go topside doing that. But it can happen. |
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