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Thoughts on Verizon picking up the PAC 12 Network?

I should think they would get it at least in California in SD. As we know, HD is always an arm twister. May see similar situation to Longhorn, where the channel is national in SD, local in HD.

As long as they carry it, will watch the HD feed online if they do that, no problem.

Just can't imagine them not carrying with how much content the network will carry. Having Tier 1 football content + all the BB coverage - really separates the P12. But damn if I am not getting antsy. I really don't want to switch to Time Warner - and I know the second I make the switch Verizon will agree to a carriage deal.

Ugh. Timing this out is going to suck.

reply to Bolt1963
I just checked and got this (for VHO3)

Let Verizon FiOS hear your voice!
Just because Verizon FiOS doesn't carry Pac-12 Networks, doesn't mean they won't. Fill out the form below and let your voice be heard. Every request counts. Send yours in today!

Yeah, thanks Andy. I have been hammering that link for a month now. Called in yesterday and of course the rep had no idea what I was talking about.

For anyone on this board that wants to help out ... here is the link to send a request.

»www.pac-12.org/SPORTS/Pac12Netwo···der.aspx

reply to Bolt1963
I hope they do only SD if at all. I am tired of all these "regional" sports channels that people want because they were there and then moved. Bad enough that we got stuck with YES here in the Baltimore area. Got to think there are higher priority channels (the normal list BBC, G4, Cartoon, etc) that would garner more viewers.

reply to Bolt1963
I only hope that if FIOS adds new regional sports networks that they do not pass the cost on to other regions. They should either be included into the local sports channels for those regions (this way the cost is borne by those within the region) or part of the FIOS sports package.

Its more than a regional sports network. People across the country are interested in Tier 1 college football content. The PAC 12 network gets first choice over ESPN and Fox three times a football season. So Oregon at USC could be on the P12 network.

HD was made for sports. I can't watch sports in SD and don't know anyone who can. Its intolerable.

As for pricing. For all the other providers with carriage deals, it is basic within the footprint and on a sports tier outside the footprint.

Sports content is king for a reason. Not only ratings - but they get LIVE viewership.

reply to Bolt1963
The unending sprout of regional sports networks is just going to push subscriber fees to ridiculous levels. There's no reason for them. None. All the big games are on network or major cable channels. Not these regionals, especially for college.

bohratom - was speaking more to the post above yours.

Greg - The P12 Network will carry up to 4 live college football games a week and has access to Tier 1, 2 and 3 content. They will replay all conference games throughout the week - whether it was broadcast on ESPN, FOX, FX or P12. It will have the biggest game in the P12 at least three times a year. The content is very much going to be in demand - especially in Los Angeles. If FIOS needs to add it to a sports tier for outside the footprint - would have no problem with it. I understand not everyone is going to watch P12 football and basketball (where every BB game will be televised).

A poster said there were higher priority channels like BBC and G4? I can say without any hesitation, I won't ever watch a second of those channels and don't know anyone else who will either. Different strokes.

FIOS will lose a TON of their Los Angeles market if they choose not to carry. Wasn't too worried since the P12 already has carriage deals with every major cable company and will sign DTV before launch. That leaves FIOS and U-Verse. I don't have any experience with FIOS and carriage deals - was hoping someone knew how they typically evolve.

reply to Bolt1963
Thanks for the link. I voiced my opinion, and will keep doing so, periodically.

I also do the same periodically for 3Net, on their site. I just figure that FiOS should/need at least a Second 3D Channel by now. And I think 3Net has some good programming.

I say 3Net because I know it is not tied down to DirecTV (like N3D is). It is just the 1st Provider to carry it.

reply to Bolt1963
Bolt there's a difference between adding a regional sports network in certain home regions, and adding it nationwide. Versus had Pac-10 football for awhile, nobody on the East coast watched it.

There are plenty of PAC 12 alums living on the east coast. College sports aren't regional and with the P12 having Tier 1 rights, any college football fan is going to want to watch Oregon at USC this season. That's the competitive edge. At the very least, it needs to be available on a sports tier. B1G is nationwide and the P12 Net will have better quality content as well as quantity with over 35 live football games and 130 live basketball games.

There are 6 Regional Networks and 1 National. If they don't carry the regionals locally, they must carry the National.

FIOS will lose a significant portion of the LA market if they screw this up. Really not looking forward to switching to Time Warner, will give it three more weeks.

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reply to Bolt1963
these specific conference channels are pointless, all the major games are on CBS, NBC or ESPN/ABC or any of the additional channels nobody even thinks of like CSPAN or some other channel that gets converted into a sportsnetwork for that 1 game.

the Texas OU game will never be on Longhorn Network

any other major Big 12 games including Texas wont be

if theres an actual B12 Network they dont carry any major OU/TTech/Longhorns..even Baylor when they got hot last year in the Heisman race

Michigan Ohio State will never be on Big10

USC Notre Dame game will never be on Pac10

Cal/UCLA USC will never be on Pac10

Oregon ect... major games will never be on Pact10

and the SEC which is the conference that matters is already on CBS or ESPN with 'sec network' shown on the boxscore, whether its even a real network or just something they negotiated during their games

Amen Bolt!

Verizon needs to understand that for many of us, FiOS is just a means to watch our favorite sports teams. We don't care about 90% of the channels we get as long as we can get ESPN, local RSNs, and channels that carry national sports such as TNT, MLB Net, NBA tv, NFL Net. If Verizon is going to prevent us from seeing the Pac-12 Network (UCLA & USC coverage will be switching from FSN to Pac-12 Net) and Time Warner SportsNet (Laker coverage and possibly Dodger coverage after 2013 will switch from FSW to SportsNet) then there is no point for many of us to subscribe to FiOS!

I called this morning and to no surprise the rep I spoke to hadn't a clue what I was talking about. Regardless, I asked she please take a note that if no carriage deal is announced by the 20th, I am switching to Time Warner.

Suggest you do the same. More calls can't hurt.

reply to Bolt1963
Look my point is that if Verizon adds every one of these RSN's nationally, it's only going to increase the bills. It's bad enough we have to pay a ransom to ESPN. And to use an HD slot for a channel that will have a "few" Saturday's of moderately watched action? Same as the Big Ten channel, 99% of the time unless you have a Big Ten fetish, you're not watching that network. Let Pac-12 go the NHL or MLB route and offer the channel for next to nothing....