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Re: Thoughts on Verizon picking up the PAC 12 Network? IMHO if Verizon doesn't have the bandwidth they need to pull the Longhorn Network and replace it with the PAC 12 Network, if that's their only option.
And it's not about area served, Los Angeles the 2nd largest city in the US is in the demographic which alone blows away Austin (much less Dallas) never mind adding San Francisco, Phoenix, Tucson, Denver & Salt Lake City.
Verizon needs to add it or replace a niche channel to add it in lieu of. |
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| said by Andy from CA:IMHO if Verizon doesn't have the bandwidth they need to pull the Longhorn Network and replace it with the PAC 12 Network, if that's their only option.
And it's not about area served, Los Angeles the 2nd largest city in the US is in the demographic which alone blows away Austin (much less Dallas) never mind adding San Francisco, Phoenix, Tucson, Denver & Salt Lake City.
Verizon needs to add it or replace a niche channel to add it in lieu of. Dallas is DMA #5 we are close to being as big as Socal except our population is little bit smaller but I bet land mass is about the same DMA wise.
Here is what I think should be done with the PAC12 national SD/HD on verizon add them to the sports tier and make PAC12 HD MPEG4.
LA/Palm Springs should get PAC12 LA SD/HD and PAC12 national SD/HD.
I find it interesting that TWC is adding TWC Sportsnet and TWC Deportes in SD and HD in Dallas which will be a national version of the channel. |
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 | reply to Andy from CA said by Andy from CA:IMHO if Verizon doesn't have the bandwidth they need to pull the Longhorn Network and replace it with the PAC 12 Network, if that's their only option.
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Verizon needs to add it or replace a niche channel to add it in lieu of. this... Pac-12 Network will be carrying 35 football games, many of which are tier 1 & 2 games and somewhere in the neighborhood of 135 basketball games. In comparison, the Longhorn Network has at most 1 or 2 football games against directional U and maybe a few basketball games, if that. The content on Pac-12 Net is far superior to that of the LHN...
I am, however, fully in favor of bringing these channels online as MPEG-4 channels and forcing those who care about it to upgrade their boxes. That goes for every new channel add. |
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 | I read on twitter that DIRECTV is close to getting the pac-12 network while DISH is not likely I predict verizon will have this network, I think it would be a big mistake not to carry it! |
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 | reply to lakerfan82 A point of order here--the Longwhorn Network does actually have other lesser FBS schools playing their games on their 'channel'.
Case-in-point, the upcoming Texas Tech vs. Texas State game, which Texas Tech has threatened to forfeit if the game will be broadcast live on the Longwhorn Network.
Otherwise, yes, the Longwhorn Network has nothing on the Pac-12 Network or the Big Ten Network...and at the rate of adoption and expansion, it probably won't be long for this world anyway. |
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 Bolt1963 join:2011-07-19 Redondo Beach, CA | Anger. Is. BUILDING!
Come on Verizon, step your game up. |
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 | Its time for verizon to step up and get ALL the pac-12 network channels in HD! Its time for verizon to put pressure on directv for a change instead of the other way around. Oh well i dont know why i worry about it,the longer i go without the nba league pass in HD the more i think about leaving fios tv . |
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 | UCLA starts football Thursday night and USC starts on Saturday. Both games are on local HD stations here but it would certainly be nice if Verizon could step up to carrying the PAC-12 network this week.
And, yes, I've sent the e-mail suggested by the PAC-12 network web site. |
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 4 edits | Unfortunately, UCLA is on CBS Sports Network, which FiOS still does not carry in HD. At least next week they will be on FOX HD but after that I will be worried if Verizon still does not have a deal...
By the way here is another reminder to keep the pressure up by requesting the Pac-12 Network at this website: »pac-12.com/AboutPac-12Enterprise···der.aspx
Also, email the FiOS TV folks at this website and tell them you want the channel or you plan to cancel: »newscenter.verizon.com/media-con···ces.html
Finally, vote for the channel at Verizon's idea page here (currently 4,500+ views on this thread and only ~30 votes? Need to do better): »forums.verizon.com/t5/Share-Your···p/308043
Keep the pressure up! |
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 crgauth join:2004-05-18 Glen Burnie, MD | reply to celticpride There are plenty of us that would would prefer other channels than these local college network sports channels. |
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 matcarlPremium join:2007-03-09 Franklin Square, NY | Yes, these sports channels are getting out of control. Every week there seems to be a new one. How do they expect all the cable providers to carry them all? |
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 | reply to Bolt1963 Why should my bill keep going up because of all these new sports networks? Come on -- there wasn't enough room on Fox Sports for these games?
I hope Verizon and all the other providers fight tooth and nail against Time Warner's attempt to grab yet more dollars from my pocket by attempting to force Verizon to carry this channel in its basic tiers.
Either put the games back on the original sports networks, or provide these channels as ala-carte options only for the people who want to watch the games.
I mean -- in Los Angeles right now Verizon already has to pay about $4.80 for ESPN, another $2 - $3 for Fox Sports, and now there is a new PAC 12 network that wants about $1 a subscriber and also coming soon a new Lakers network that will also want more money?
Sports is killing the cost of cable. Completely ridiculous costs compared to non-sports programming.... it is my understanding that channels like History and Science Channel get paid less than 30 cents for each subscriber. |
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 | reply to Bolt1963 I have the same opinion of Pac-12 as I do beIN soccer, NO!! It's unfortunate for the fans, but it's getting way out of control. Let these channels be PPV like FSC Plus is. It's not Verizon or the customer's fault that the sports leagues continue to do this for monetary gain. Stop building their stadiums with tax money and stop allowing them to make billions off people who don't watch them. |
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 | As discussed previously, the large majority of sports fans only subscribe to cable so they can watch their favorite teams. I'd be up for a sports only package that included the local RSNs, ESPNs, League Sports Channels, TBS, TNT, & FX. No doubt it would still be pretty expensive. However, many of the 100s of other variety channels that the "sports nuts" are forced to subsidize wouldn't be long for this world...everyone has their own tastes. This thread is about the Pac-12 Network... lets try to keep it on topic if possible... |
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 Bolt1963 join:2011-07-19 Redondo Beach, CA | And I don't understand why I have to pay for BRAVO, A&E, HGTV, MTV, TBS, etc.
Go complain on the thread about winning programming like Cartoons or BBC America. My lord. I am not in that thread whining about having to pay for that crap.
Sports programming drives the bus. Sorry. |
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 | No, you aren't because Verizon only has to pay Bravo, A&E, HGTV, etc. about 10 to 20 cents a channel.
We are whining because ESPN alone charges $5 a customer and all the other sports channels are also ridiculously expensive.
It's about the ridiculous cost of sports programming vs the much lower cost of other channels. |
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 | reply to Bolt1963 Verizon should go back to using a sports package like the other providers often do. It's the only fair way. I'm thinking of lots of people who don't even watch ESPN and get raked over the coals because of them. |
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 matcarlPremium join:2007-03-09 Franklin Square, NY | They have a sports package for people on Prime & Extreme |
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 | I have no problem with the PAC-12 network being on an extra-cost sports network. I just want to see FiOS add these channels. Supposedly they are in "negotiations" but the football season starts Thursday night.
As a college football fan I would sign up for these channels from September through November at least. |
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 Strommy join:2010-04-23 King Of Prussia, PA | reply to Bolt1963 said by Bolt1963:And I don't understand why I have to pay for BRAVO, A&E, HGTV, MTV, TBS, etc.
Go complain on the thread about winning programming like Cartoons or BBC America. My lord. I am not in that thread whining about having to pay for that crap.
Sports programming drives the bus. Sorry. You are correct it drives the RATE bus, everyone pisses and moans when the rates go up, what is driving that, sports channels. As someone else pointed out, those channels you mentioned all cost $0.10 to $0.20 per subscriber (except for MTV, and if I could I would get rid of every single M(ORON)TV channel there is) while all the sports channels are anywhere frm $1.00 to $6.00 per subscriber. -- Verizon is becoming the new Comcast
Those .tv channels have got to go!!!!!!!!!! |
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