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I_H8_Spam

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[Serious] Love our justice system

This makes me sick.

this driver, selfishly is solo in an HOV lane. Crashed at highway speeds into the rear end of another vehicle, killing 2 children, paralyzing another child passenger, injures 2 adult passengers.

The driver flees to Australia, is arrested in 2011 on landing back in Canada.

In the end.. $1500.00 fine $225.00 Victim surcharge. No jail, no driving prohibition.

»www.vancouversun.com/news/Vancou···ory.html
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elwoodblues
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It's not justice, it's the BC Motor Vehicle Act.



urbanriot
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reply to I_H8_Spam
What... the... fuck...

quote:
MacKenzie said the Crown had asked the court to consider a “brief driving prohibition” in addition to the fine, but it was not granted.
Killed a family and paralyzed the kid who lost this family... and he's an asshole... This angers me.


Gone
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reply to I_H8_Spam
The fact that this happened in an HOV lane is completely irrelevant. So, tell me again, why does this make you sick?



Gone
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said by urbanriot:

Killed a family and paralyzed the kid who lost this family... and he's an asshole... This angers me.

Driving in the HOV lane aside, the fact that criminal charges weren't laid probably means that there's more to this whole tragic series of events than knee-jerk emotional reactions to careless driving penalties would lead people to believe.

Not only that, but if the people were actually *in* an active driving lane and got hit rather than off on the shoulder, they bare some of the responsibility for what happened. Doing something as stupid as that is the equivalent of standing in the middle of a busy road and expecting not to get hit even though you're waving your hands in the air. Something like this happened on the QEW not too long ago, guy stopped in the middle of a driving lane and got rear-ended.

Seriously people - you're stopped in a driving lane of a controlled-access freeway where cars are travelling at least 100-110KM/h and didn't even bother to get your car off to the shoulder. What else do you expect to happen? It's a tragedy that people were hurt and killed, but your blame is completely one-sided in this.


IsItDoneYet
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join:2009-07-11
Thunder Bay, ON

reply to I_H8_Spam
Does not compute, this story needs more information.
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I_H8_Spam

join:2004-03-10
St Catharines, ON
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The driver of the hit vehicle was dealing with a possible fire in the cabin/engine, pulled to the left shoulder and had the hazards on.

The problem was narrow shoulders on this aged section of highway.

Here is a street-view near the crash location to illustrate.

»maps.google.com/?ll=49.238462,-1···9,,0,6.3

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EdmundGerber

join:2010-01-04
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reply to Gone

said by Gone:

said by urbanriot:

Killed a family and paralyzed the kid who lost this family... and he's an asshole... This angers me.

Driving in the HOV lane aside, the fact that criminal charges weren't laid probably means that there's more to this whole tragic series of events than knee-jerk emotional reactions to careless driving penalties would lead people to believe.

Not only that, but if the people were actually *in* an active driving lane and got hit rather than off on the shoulder, they bare some of the responsibility for what happened. Doing something as stupid as that is the equivalent of standing in the middle of a busy road and expecting not to get hit even though you're waving your hands in the air. Something like this happened on the QEW not too long ago, guy stopped in the middle of a driving lane and got rear-ended.

Seriously people - you're stopped in a driving lane of a controlled-access freeway where cars are travelling at least 100-110KM/h and didn't even bother to get your car off to the shoulder. What else do you expect to happen? It's a tragedy that people were hurt and killed, but your blame is completely one-sided in this.

You're cool that the guy who did the rear ending, fled the country after being charged, eh?

If my car was on fire, I'd want to get off the road ASAP. The fact he didn't do it well enough under duress means it's OK they died?

Go actually read the fucking story, then come read your post again.


urbanriot
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said by Gone:

It's a tragedy that people were hurt and killed, but your blame is completely one-sided in this.

I'll always be one-sided when someone rear-ends and kills someone else then later flees the country. It's possible the guy didn't know he was going to be charged but I question the truthfulness of such claims.

I agree that it was stupid of the driver, a woman, to stop in the middle of a lane rather than slowly try and pull over into the appropriate lane... but really, a solo driver in an HOV lane is just the kind of asshole to tailgate someone or not look ahead of them while they're in the middle of something else.

Riamen
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Calgary

reply to I_H8_Spam
This link has a few more details. Apparently he went to Australia to study law.

»bc.ctvnews.ca/driver-in-crash-th···1.898377



Styvas
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Hamilton, ON

reply to urbanriot
I drive with my wife everyday in the QEW HOV lane. Apparently, according to the entitled assholes who tailgate me at 120km/hr, it's the "fast lane." Heaven forbid I had children in the car, and they want me to drive 130-140 like we're on the 407 or something?
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capdjq
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Coastie

reply to I_H8_Spam
The Judge, sometimes in certain cases, has no choice in pronouncing sentences, even if lenient, if a precedent has been set in a previous similar case.

Case in point. Monty Robinson, RCMP Officer, received a suspended sentence and probation in a alleged drunk driving case involving a death of a biker, for certain reasons including him being Native Indian. In future similar cases, precedent has been set, even if a death has occurred.

In Monty Robinson's case precedent for his sentencing had already been set. This cannot be changed especially if the precedent was set by a BC Superior Court. If a harsher sentence were imposed this would grounds for appeal and reversal.

So the merry go round continues.
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FaxCap

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reply to I_H8_Spam
We've heard a lot about this back here as you would imagine.
There are no shoulders for the HOV....all she had to do was go 2
lanes over to the shoulder. The smoke as I read it wasn't filling the cab.

He didn't flee the country as the article posted says he went to study law.

I'm not happy with the slap on the wrist he got but as usual there is
more to the story.

FaxCap


jubenvi

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reply to capdjq

said by capdjq:

The Judge, sometimes in certain cases, has no choice in pronouncing sentences, even if lenient, if a precedent has been set in a previous similar case.

I've always wondered when this started and if it's a law or just standard practice?

Judge makes a bad call and now all judges have to also make same bad/wrong call?


ekster
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said by jubenvi:

said by capdjq:

The Judge, sometimes in certain cases, has no choice in pronouncing sentences, even if lenient, if a precedent has been set in a previous similar case.

I've always wondered when this started and if it's a law or just standard practice?

Judge makes a bad call and now all judges have to also make same bad/wrong call?

This came from Britain long before Canada even existed. It's called Common law, and that's the tradition Canada follows. And yeah, a bad call in the first case can lead to bad calls afterwards as the precedent is set.

That's one area where the rest of Canada should've followed the Romans/French (and Quebec) as we use the Civil law.

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