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DarkLogix
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reply to Adalicia

Re: WoW drops again

Well revenue would still be large, the gross intake would be all money they receive.

And revenue is normally Gross not net.



Skittles
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reply to Nightfall

said by Nightfall:

You are right, I am not familiar with your version of "established blogs" in the WoW community. Did it ever occur to you that there are others here that are not up to date on what you consider to be an "established blog" as well?

I never made an assumption towards anyone being up to date on any blog on this forum, in fact if you go back in read my initial post I stated :

From a blog I read called "In an Age", copy pasta for those that cant open:

You see, I stated "from a blog I read", not "from a blog everyone is familiar with".

My stating that In an Age is an established blog in the WoW community was in response to you stating it was from a "random blogger" and your subsequent statement of:

"Probably would have been better to post a link with it. I didn't know "In an Age" from a hole in the ground and I am a long time player."

hence my response of In An Age being an established blog. You make the statement of "my version of an established blog"....I am cursious as to what you think an established blog may be? Azuriel the Blog's author has been blogging for sometime and links to and from his site are found in Most common WoW blogs. But it is not my place to aurgue whether you consider him established or not, but I think it would be unwise to think he is not in some form more established than a mere "random blogger".

said by Nightfall:

Assuming that everyone is up to date on every WoW established blog will just make an ass out of you and me. Which is why all I pointed out was for you to post a factual link backing up what you copy/pasted. Or at least a link to the blog.

Again never made an assumption that everyone was up to date on this particular blog and never stated one had to be to read the post, I only stated it was from a blog I read. As to posting a link, again I stated the Blog's name and the fact that the following would be copy pasta, if someone wants to try and open it at work under websense they can type in google....not hard...at all. I copy/pasta it so they wouldnt have to follow a link.

said by Nightfall:

Sorry if you took offense to my initial comment. Just from reading your post, it just looked like a regular common joe blogger, to which there are millions of them out there. The conversation on some of the content has been stimulating so far.

I never took offense, merely defending what I posted. and yes you are correct, the posts have been stimulating.


Krisnatharok
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1 recommendation

It's not a big issue, in the future, please identify blogs with a link, some background or situational awareness, and then use

[bquote][/bquote]
 

This is a test test test

or

<blockquote></blockquote>
 
This is a test test test
To differentiate your own words from the copy-pasta. TBH, my first read-over attributed the author's dismissive attitude to you because it was not clear where the blog post began.

Now, back to a discussion of the content at hand, please.

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said by Krisnatharok:

It's not a big issue, in the future, please identify blogs with a link, some background or situational awareness...

Here here! Thank you!
Not hard to understand at all.
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Skittles
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said by Krisnatharok:

It's not a big issue, in the future, please identify blogs with a link, some background or situational awareness...

Not sure what exactly is hard to understand I open the post with :

From a blog I read called "In an Age", copy pasta for those that cant open:

So it stands to reason that what follows: is the copy pasta, I did not realize this was that difficult to understand.


Immer
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reply to Krisnatharok

said by Krisnatharok:

It's not a big issue...my first read-over attributed the author's dismissive attitude to you because it was not clear where the blog post began.

you can also use
[quote][/quote]
 
quote:
If you like having it say the word "quote" for you
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DarkLogix
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also you can do

[bquote=[user=some blog]]
yadayadayoda
[/bquote]
 
if you want it to say who you're quoting

said by some blog :

yadayadayoda



Snuffbox
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reply to Skittles

said by Skittles:

said by Krisnatharok:

It's not a big issue, in the future, please identify blogs with a link, some background or situational awareness...

Not sure what exactly is hard to understand I open the post with :

From a blog I read called "In an Age", copy pasta for those that cant open:

So it stands to reason that what follows: is the copy pasta, I did not realize this was that difficult to understand.

I'm with Skittles, I had no difficulty identifying the source of his article. Validity aside, source was clear.


Snuffbox
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That being said.

Zomg, WoW lost subscriptions.

/beat dead horse.

Old news is old.

/necro

More news @ 11:00.

(That was my entire inventory.)



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said by Snuffbox:

That being said.

Zomg, WoW lost subscriptions.

/beat dead horse.

Old news is old.

/necro

More news @ 11:00.

(That was my entire inventory.)

I agree. Its not a big deal. The biggest MMO lost 1 million subs. In 2 months they will gain back 1-2 million subs.
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Krisnatharok
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reply to Snuffbox

said by Snuffbox:

said by Skittles:

said by Krisnatharok:

It's not a big issue, in the future, please identify blogs with a link, some background or situational awareness...

Not sure what exactly is hard to understand I open the post with :

From a blog I read called "In an Age", copy pasta for those that cant open:

So it stands to reason that what follows: is the copy pasta, I did not realize this was that difficult to understand.

I'm with Skittles, I had no difficulty identifying the source of his article. Validity aside, source was clear.

Validity aside, it is poor internet etiquette. This board supports HTML, so let's use it.

There may also be a legal issue with copy-pasting an entire article if it is copyrighted (at work and cannot check the original blog), and such posts usually will get moderated.
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Snuffbox
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1 edit

said by Krisnatharok:

Validity aside, it is poor internet etiquette.

Kris, please quote my quote so no one confuses the source, this board supports HTML, so let's use it. See below.
said by Snuffbox:

Validity aside,

Skittles' post was fine, this is getting ridiculous.

How about we talk about the actual topic (WoW going F2P in 24 hours, Zomg) and stop QQing about stupid quotes.

My
said by Snuffbox:

Validity aside,

statement was expressing that whether or not the BLOG was accurate, the SOURCE of the blog was sufficiently posted.

Btw, your signature doesn't have a source.


Immer
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said by Krisnatharok:

There may also be a legal issue with copy-pasting an entire article if it is copyrighted (at work and cannot check the original blog), and such posts usually will get moderated.

I'm Immer See Profile, and I support this message.


Krisnatharok
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reply to Snuffbox

said by Snuffbox:

Skittles' post was fine, this is getting ridiculous.

How about we talk about the actual topic (WoW going F2P in 24 hours, Zomg) and stop QQing about stupid quotes.

This side-show goes to show how "valid" the original topic really is. Like you said, "OMG qq no new content subscriptions declining!"

Shall we continue thrashing the exanimate steed, or simply move along?
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Skittles
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reply to Immer

Oh ffs, the whole forum is predicated on the fact that most links cant be opened from work which is where a number of us make use of DSLR. How many countless threads have had comments to the effect of " please post what it said I cant open link at work".

It is ludicrus to make a statement of copyright infringment by copy and pasting from a blog, gimmie a fuckin break, this is getting stupid. I posted a copy/paste post from a source I clearly identified. I didnt post a link because a lot of folks cant open said links. You guys are nit picking for the sake of nit picking.



Snuffbox
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I agree.

DSLR is the ISFW (Is Safe For Work) WoW Forums.

He stated the source, end of argument.



Mike
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reply to Skittles

SWTOR was hella unfinished. EA forced the publication for end of year sales.

Now everyone at Bioware is basically fucked if they're not fired already. That game wasn't just killed, it was executed.
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Snuffbox
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reply to Krisnatharok

said by Krisnatharok:

This side-show goes to show how "valid" the original topic really is. Like you said, "OMG qq no new content subscriptions declining!"

Shall we continue thrashing the exanimate steed, or simply move along?

Again, you're arguing my use of "valid". I understand the confusion.

What I WAS saying is, whether or not the author of the blog's points were valid, Skittles' still appropriately posted the source.

I was NOT saying the validity of the source itself doesn't matter.

Again, I understand the confusion, but lets move on now that I've clarified twice.


Nightfall
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reply to Skittles

said by Skittles:

Oh ffs, the whole forum is predicated on the fact that most links cant be opened from work which is where a number of us make use of DSLR. How many countless threads have had comments to the effect of " please post what it said I cant open link at work".

It is ludicrus to make a statement of copyright infringment by copy and pasting from a blog, gimmie a fuckin break, this is getting stupid. I posted a copy/paste post from a source I clearly identified. I didnt post a link because a lot of folks cant open said links. You guys are nit picking for the sake of nit picking.

So we shouldn't post links to information that we want to talk about anymore because a select few can't open them from work? Oh, and it wasn't clearly identified. I had no idea what it was. Clearly identifying it would have been posting the web address.

I don't think its nit picking asking a member to post a link. I also think that there is no justification for not using a link, unless you count laziness as a justification, which I do not.
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Snuffbox
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This is dumb.

He stated the source.

You are a hypocrite if you criticize his not providing a link and don't get on Kris's back for having a paragraph quote from President Reagan with no SOURCE OR LINK zomg.



Immer
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said by Skittles:

It is ludicrus to make a statement of copyright infringment by copy and pasting from a blog, gimmie a fuckin break, this is getting stupid. I posted a copy/paste post from a source I clearly identified. I didnt post a link because a lot of folks cant open said links. You guys are nit picking for the sake of nit picking.

hehe... I just want cleaner posts. I had to read your post a few times to figure out where the quote began and whether or not you had your own thoughts included in the end (couldn't rely on line spacing).

no need to get upset... either edit the post, or don't and just say "thanks, i'll do better next time... back to the OP".
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reply to Skittles

Thank you Skittles for the nice read, I have a hunch you just being trolled.



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reply to Skittles

I believe The Daily Blink has summed up the "WoW drops subs" issue:




Krisnatharok
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reply to Snuffbox

said by Snuffbox:

You are a hypocrite if you criticize his not providing a link and don't get on Kris's back for having a paragraph quote from President Reagan with no SOURCE OR LINK zomg.

It was *CLEARLY* Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter. Duh.
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Krisnatharok
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reply to Immer

It is ludicrus to make a statement of copyright infringment by copy and pasting from a blog, gimmie a fuckin break, this is getting stupid. I posted a copy/paste post from a source I clearly identified. I didnt post a link because a lot of folks cant open said links. You guys are nit picking for the sake of nit picking.

hehe... I just want cleaner posts. I had to read your post a few times to figure out where the quote began and whether or not you had your own thoughts included in the end (couldn't rely on line spacing).

no need to get upset... either edit the post, or don't and just say "thanks, i'll do better next time... back to the OP".

orly?



Skittles
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reply to Nightfall

said by Nightfall:

about anymore because a select few can't open them from work? Oh, and it wasn't clearly identified. I had no idea what it was. Clearly identifying it would have been posting the web address.

I posted clearly, this is from a blog I read called In An Age. This would be akin to me saying this is from a book I read called Child of God.

You see I stated what I was posting and where it was from....clearly. Just because you are not familiar with the source does not make it valid. Just as if you were unfamiliar with the book (Child of God is a book by the author Cormac McCarthy)I just stated would not make it less of a valid book.

See statement was made, source was identified. Just because I did not provide a link that (from what I believed and still believe was a reasonable omission)many may not be able to open does not make it lass valid.

said by Nightfall:

I also think that there is no justification for not using a link, unless you count laziness as a justification, which I do not.

I am not and was not being lazy, your assumption and your lack of being able to google a source you are not familiar with seems to indicate laziness on your part.

and BTW: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_of_God


Immer
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reply to Krisnatharok

you just gave me a headache...



DarkLogix
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reply to Nightfall

IMO proper forum edict would be the following
1. Link to source
2. quote tag used around copy paste material



Krisnatharok
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reply to Skittles

said by Skittles:

said by Nightfall:

about anymore because a select few can't open them from work? Oh, and it wasn't clearly identified. I had no idea what it was. Clearly identifying it would have been posting the web address.

I posted clearly, this is from a blog I read called In An Age. This would be akin to this is from a book I read called Child of God.

You see I stated what I was posting and wher eit was from....clearly. Just because you are not familiar with the source does not make it valid. Just as if you were unfamiliar with the book (Child of God is a book by the author Cormac McCarthy)I just stated would not make it less of a valid book.

See statement was made, source was identified. Just because I did not provide a link that (from what I believed and still believe was a reasonable omission)many may not be able to open does not make it lass valid.

said by Nightfall:

I also think that there is no justification for not using a link, unless you count laziness as a justification, which I do not.

I am not and was not being lazy, your assumption and your lack of being able to google a source you are not familiar with seems to indicate laziness on your part.

and BTW: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_of_God



thanks for the lulz on a slow Friday!
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said by DarkLogix:

IMO proper forum edict would be the following
1. Link to source
2. quote tag used around copy paste material

3. reread so you can catch a mistake and edit quickly before the system registers the edit. (I do this one a lot).