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| reply to IowaCowboy
Re: Hopefully FiOS expansion will be a requirement Verizon isn't giving this away, they are letting it die so they can come back in w/ fixed wireless and take this back over without the wireline folks who happen to be union.
There is lots of wireless tech out there and if verizon gets the cableco spectrum that is what they are going to do. Then you have OMGFAST which if the get the nod from the FCC can jack up their transmitters and be a real threat to wireline. Lots of spectrum there. With beamforming you can carry lots of channels in a region -- like SDV on cable now.
Economically this makes sense if the federal government doesn't wise up and wire every house w/ fiber like it should with those massive USF subsidies. As the bigboys own the politicians don't expect such a intelligent thing to happen any time soon. I mean when the FCC is raking in billions in license fees, what incentive do they have to actually have competition on the wireline? |
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| If VZ was smart- they'd start treating CellCo Partners as a fully desperate company. Then they could argue that VZ and VZW are NOT the same company. When actually legally at this point they are not! VZ just owns part of them; the same as at&t with AT&T Mobility, Inc. |
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| reply to elefante72
Your seem to be missing the point, Yeah Verizon does want everything wireless, so than can charge excessive amount$$ in when you go over your capped data. Think!! watching a streamed TV show or a streamed Movies could cost you over $100 for your internet that month and maybe a lot more to. |
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| reply to 25139889
said by 25139889:If VZ was smart- they'd start treating CellCo Partners as a fully desperate company.
I think you meant "fully separate". |
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| reply to 25139889
Verizon is already trying to do what you're suggesting. The problem is that Verizon appoints the management of Verizon Wireless, so Verizon's entire argument of claiming that they act independently is lacking credibility.
AT&T owns 100% of AT&T Mobility and they haven't tried to claim that the mobile division acts independently from the parent company (yet). |
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| actually they do by having it a totally different company. Just because they appoint appoints mgt- it's still a separate company by law. They have their own EIN and are formed as a separate company.
As the gov't would be considered they are a different company. |
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| reply to VZSUX
and point? First- i don't use VZ for a thing. 2nd VZ no longer offers service in Ohio. Only CellCo offers service here. i'm happy with my cable and my TracFone/Straight Talk/Sprint phone. |
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| reply to elefante72
said by elefante72:Verizon isn't giving this away, they are letting it die so they can come back in w/ fixed wireless and take this back over without the wireline folks who happen to be union.
There is lots of wireless tech out there and if verizon gets the cableco spectrum that is what they are going to do. Then you have OMGFAST which if the get the nod from the FCC can jack up their transmitters and be a real threat to wireline. Lots of spectrum there. With beamforming you can carry lots of channels in a region -- like SDV on cable now.
Economically this makes sense if the federal government doesn't wise up and wire every house w/ fiber like it should with those massive USF subsidies. As the bigboys own the politicians don't expect such a intelligent thing to happen any time soon. I mean when the FCC is raking in billions in license fees, what incentive do they have to actually have competition on the wireline?
Nailed it.
We need to learn from the Aussie model and have the fed gov establish a wholesale corporation, that owns a national FTTH network; with we the people the major shareholder.
Once close to every home is wired, 'various' businesses can use this FTTH for a set fee and sell their own services over it. |
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| reply to 25139889
If the company is as separate as you say, then why would Verizon Landline be so interested in dumping customers and not upgrading their footprint while Verizon Wireless spends billions on LTE? |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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| Exactly. While Verizon Wireless may be a separate legal entity than Verizon (which itself is arguable since it is really a subsidiary), the decisions are made by the same people. There is one plan being worked on by the two obviously-not-separate companies.
Some people like to dream that VZW somehow sprang forth as a completely new company out of thin air. The truth is wireless has always been built and funded by the wireline companies. |
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