| Is it true I need a Microsoft Account to login to Windows 8? I keep on reading people claiming that in order to use Windows 8, you must create a Microsoft Live account, and you must login to it each time the computer boots up. So no more local login. Is this true or am I misunderstanding?? If yes, what happens if I have no internet connection? |
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| No this is not true at all 
However if you want to have your computers in sync then yes you will need a Microsoft account. |
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 JohnInSJPremium
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said by win8q :If yes, what happens if I have no internet connection?
Um... yeah. So, if you choose to use a live account to login to you windows box, the first time you do it you have to be connected to the 'net - after that it uses cached credentials to authenticate you, if you login when disconnected. Just like it would if you logged in with a Domain account.
But no, you can still have local user accounts on each machine. Basically they've finally given the home user the same ability to use non-local credentials to authenticate as they've done for corporate users who have centrally administered user databases (AD/domains)
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Understood, thanks for the clear and informative reply guys. |
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Mele20Premium
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Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to win8q
Who logs in?
I have NEVER logged into Windows since I got my first computer in 1999. I certainly would not do so with Win 8 (if I end up with it when I buy a new computer soon).
No one needs to login if their computer is a PERSONAL computer not used by others.
Plus, I go for MONTHS without a reboot...I hate rebooting and I NEVER EVER shut down my computer.
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| said by Mele20:No one needs to login if their computer is a PERSONAL computer not used by others.
Have you ever considered someone, an uninvited intruder or thief, could access your PERSONAL computer without your expressed written consent? This constantly happens in the real world.
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Mele20Premium
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kudos:4 | If someone broke into my home what would it matter if I had a login password on my computer? My computer is never shutdown.
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JohnInSJPremium
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Anyone who has a shared computer. Anyone who has personal information on their computer. Anyone who uses a computer for work.
Those three came to mind in seconds. Everyone logs in at my house.
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vaxvmsferroequine fanPremium
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There's this neat new feature in Windows called a screensaver. One of the truly amazing things it can do is require the user to provide a password to resume operation. And it doesn't require that merciless act of a reboot. Check it out.
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 plencnerbPremium
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Elgin, IL
kudos:2 | said by vaxvms:There's this neat new feature in Windows called a screensaver. One of the truly amazing things it can do is require the user to provide a password to resume operation. And it doesn't require that merciless act of a reboot. Check it out.
The other neat new feature in Windows is your ability to Lock the desktop by pressing CTRL + ALT + DEL on the keyboard. I don't have a screen saver set, but whenever I go out, I lock my desktop, and then turn off the monitor.
I only reboot when I install MS patches, which is once a month on the 2nd Tuesday of the month. Its like clockwork!
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Mele20Premium
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kudos:4 | reply to vaxvms
I have a screensaver. In fact, I have a bunch of them (and some matching themes) for XP Pro. Screensaver is set in Power Savings to come on after 3 minutes of inactivity and the monitor is set to turn off after 5 minutes of inactivity. Hard disks are set to never turn off, the computer is set to never go into standby and never to hibernate. The latter is overridden only by APC's PowerChute software if there is a power outage and PowerChute hibernates the machine and then shuts off.
I think the settings you mention about being forced to provide a password to resume applies to laptops only. (I recall reading about it but don't recall details as I don't have any laptops so I wasn't affected). I've had all my computers set up like this one (that includes virtual machines) and none of them (including a Vista Ultimate virtual machine) require a password to resume from a screensaver. Because I have the screensaver set to come on after only 3 minutes of inactivity, I can be sitting at the computer reading a page that is dense with text and three minutes can go by without my moving the mouse or anything and the screensaver comes on...or it comes on during youtube videos that are longer than 3 minutes. All I have to do is wiggle the mouse slightly, and the screensaver goes away, and the page I was on, or the video (if full screen), is back still playing.
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LLigetfa
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Fort Frances, ON
kudos:1 | reply to plencnerb
said by plencnerb:The other neat new feature in Windows is your ability to Lock the desktop by pressing CTRL + ALT + DEL on the keyboard.
Even easier is to use the [Windows] + [L] keys.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_key
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plencnerbPremium
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kudos:2 | reply to Mele20
I think in your case Mele20  there is like a 5-10 second delay (or something short like that) that once the screen saver kicks in, you can do something to get back to your desktop without it asking for a password, and that happens on both laptops and desktops.
I know in the past that I have set the screensaver to ask for a password on desktops and laptops, and it does work. In fact, at the last company I was at, there was a Group Policy from Active Directory that forced that checkbox to be set and not changeable (so the users could not turn it off). We did that for security reasons in the office.
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM
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Nepean, ON | reply to win8q
said by win8q :I keep on reading people claiming that in order to use Windows 8, you must create a Microsoft Live account, and you must login to it each time the computer boots up. So no more local login. Is this true or am I misunderstanding?? If yes, what happens if I have no internet connection?
No its not true .... but if you wanted to exploit Microsoft Cloud services then you have the option of doing that and that does require that you educate yourself if Microsoft Cloud services may be of benefit to you. There are SO MANY features and benefits that you may decide to become a Live account user so under Live and Windows 8 you will be able to take advantage of the many services. The migration to Windows 8 will be Huge.
Cloud services will also become available to Windows 7 users soon but Windows 8 automates SOOOOOOO MUCH that its a real pleasure to use and exploit.
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LLigetfa
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Fort Frances, ON
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said by plencnerb:In fact, at the last company I was at, there was a Group Policy from Active Directory that forced that checkbox to be set and not changeable (so the users could not turn it off). I use a GPO to force it for my users. What I advise them to do is to set the power options to turn off the monitor a few minutes before the screensaver. That way, when they see the monitor go dark, they can nudge the mouse before the screensaver locks.
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Mele20Premium
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Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to plencnerb
said by plencnerb:said by vaxvms:There's this neat new feature in Windows called a screensaver. One of the truly amazing things it can do is require the user to provide a password to resume operation. And it doesn't require that merciless act of a reboot. Check it out.
The other neat new feature in Windows is your ability to Lock the desktop by pressing CTRL + ALT + DEL on the keyboard. I don't have a screen saver set, but whenever I go out, I lock my desktop, and then turn off the monitor. I only reboot when I install MS patches, which is once a month on the 2nd Tuesday of the month. Its like clockwork! --Brian Yeah, I have known about that feature for a long time. You play with fire using that feature and for why? If someone breaks into your house they will steal your computer and get into windows eventually...or they will hock it, sell it, whatever. That lock can end up locking you out. As for saving your monitor do what I do...this Dell Ultrasharp now has close to 30,000 hours on it and is still running fine. That's partly because I have it set to go on screen saver at 3 minutes and shut down at 5 minutes. (Plus, I never have used it at 100% brightness....at 70% for many years and only about a year ago put it higher but still not at 100%).
Besides, why would you want to have to stop at the login screen when booting? You want boot to be as fast as possible and the last thing you want is to slow it down with a login screen. I set up my Vista Ultimate virtual machine as you guys are describing. I did it for the heck of it and what is even funnier is that I have NO password on the hidden Admin account on it just a password on MY admin account. It's quite irritating to boot that machine unless I boot into the hidden (which I unhid) Admin account instead of my admin account. I would never do that on a regular basis...it is just too irritating. On my host machine while I have no password on my Admin account, I DO have a complicated password on the default Admin account and I turned off password expiration on it. That is another dangerous thing on Windows that can lock you out and if it locks you out of the default Admin account then you are in deep trouble.
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Mele20Premium
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UEFI is a pleasure? Not being able to dual boot Linux or XP or ANY other OS is a pleasure? Being locked in FOR THE LIFE OF THE WINDOWS 8 MACHINE to the original video card, sound card, (exact duplicate replacement is ok but not upgrading to a different card) etc is a pleasure? Really? How can you possibly think there will be a huge migration to Windows 8? With Windows 8, Microsoft has become extremely vicious and controlling. Windows 8 is a wet dream for Microsoft and a nightmare for any users except the sheeple.
As for cloud computing that is the worst thing that has ever happened to Windows. I don't even allow my AV to contact the cloud! I certainly would never put anything on the cloud...that too is Microsoft's wet dream come true.
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said by Mele20:Besides, why would you want to have to stop at the login screen when booting? You want boot to be as fast as possible and the last thing you want is to slow it down with a login screen.
You've announced that you never turn off your computer. Why would you care about the time it takes to boot?
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:7 | reply to Mele20
Everyone.
Just because you don't select a username or type a password, it doesn't mean you don't log in. Not typing a password is "automatic login", not "no login".
"Login" is the mechanism for constructing the user environment.
Want proof? Run task manager. See stuff executing as your particular user name? That's because your desktop was created by logging in as that user. |
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 phreekdPremium
join:2003-06-10
Parkville, MD | +1 for the clarity. |
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