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cowboyro

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reply to Lurch77

Re: 50 or 70 pint dehumidifier

said by Lurch77:

I did say significantly. We have one that runs in our crawlspace. It's not hot down there.

The crawl space is a big heat sink.

iknow
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said by ArgMeMatey:

I used to have some computer labs where we put in window A/C in basement rooms and people complained they were always too cold, so they would shut off the A/C and the humidity would go tropical. There was condensation on the walls. We'd then have mold problems.

Seems to me the earlier post made sense: Basement walls, typically block or concrete, are heat sinks, dissipating heat into the soil. It wasn't necessary to remove heat from those rooms.

When we put dehumidifiers in, those same basement rooms were very comfortable, even though the temp was much warmer than when we had A/C.

a portable a/c with part of the condenser air discharge going back in the room is the perfect answer. if it gets too hot, all of the air from the condenser can be routed outside!. i'm sorry to hear you lost your computer labs, BTW.


ArgMeMatey

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said by iknow:

a portable a/c with part of the condenser air discharge going back in the room is the perfect answer. if it gets too hot, all of the air from the condenser can be routed outside!. i'm sorry to hear you lost your computer labs, BTW.

Are you talking custom sheet metal with pneumatics, or a unit manufactured to do that?

These were casement A/C units and we had scores of them warehoused, doing nothing.

Semantics, yeah, I should have said "managed" instead of "have".
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iknow
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said by ArgMeMatey:

said by iknow:

a portable a/c with part of the condenser air discharge going back in the room is the perfect answer. if it gets too hot, all of the air from the condenser can be routed outside!. i'm sorry to hear you lost your computer labs, BTW.

Are you talking custom sheet metal with pneumatics, or a unit manufactured to do that?

These were casement A/C units and we had scores of them warehoused, doing nothing.

Semantics, yeah, I should have said "managed" instead of "have".

a satisfactory setting probably could have been set by a manual lever, basements have a mostly constant ground temperature. electronic equipment, including computers, are more sensitive to temperature, rather than humidity, within reason.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
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said by iknow See Profileelectronic equipment, including computers, are more sensitive to temperature, rather than humidity, within reason. [/BQUOTE :

Any more as log as you are comfortable the computer will be fine. Most will run forever at temps as high as 90 degrees or so. The fans may run faster and it may theoretically reduce life but it's the difference between 10 years and 9.975 years.



cowboyro

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said by itguy05:

said by iknow:

electronic equipment, including computers, are more sensitive to temperature, rather than humidity, within reason.

Any more as log as you are comfortable the computer will be fine. Most will run forever at temps as high as 90 degrees or so. The fans may run faster and it may theoretically reduce life but it's the difference between 10 years and 9.975 years.

A temperature increase of 10 degrees (C) cuts the life of capacitors in half.


Jack_in_VA
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said by cowboyro:

said by itguy05:

said by iknow:

electronic equipment, including computers, are more sensitive to temperature, rather than humidity, within reason.

Any more as log as you are comfortable the computer will be fine. Most will run forever at temps as high as 90 degrees or so. The fans may run faster and it may theoretically reduce life but it's the difference between 10 years and 9.975 years.

A temperature increase of 10 degrees (C) cuts the life of capacitors in half.

We had PLC's and other electronic instrumentation operating in the field at 135+ degrees F. No difference in failures compared to those operating in lower temperature areas.


cowboyro

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said by Jack_in_VA:

We had PLC's and other electronic instrumentation operating in the field at 135+ degrees F. No difference in failures compared to those operating in lower temperature areas.

Home electronics are not designed for industrial temperature ranges.


Jack_in_VA
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said by cowboyro:

said by Jack_in_VA:

We had PLC's and other electronic instrumentation operating in the field at 135+ degrees F. No difference in failures compared to those operating in lower temperature areas.

Home electronics are not designed for industrial temperature ranges.

Really? and this blanket statement is coming from an electronics expert? I think I might know a little about this also since I've been in the field since 1964. Additionally we had Computers right out in the heat, dust and dirt. Yes the same ones you and I have in our "HOMES". We would open them up every so often and blow them out.


cowboyro

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said by Jack_in_VA:

I think I might know a little about this also since I've been in the field since 1964.

So you are denying the fact that the life of electrolytic capacitors is greatly reduced by an increase in operating temperature? WOW.. just wow...


ArgMeMatey

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reply to cowboyro

Re: 50 or 70 pint dehumidifier

said by cowboyro:

WOW.. just wow...

I am sure Dennis does not want to break out the troll spray again, fellas.

We all have opinions and different experiences and they're all welcome, especially if you have third-party sources to back up your assertions.

Otherwise try not to be offended when someone, or everyone, disagrees with you, and we'll all be fine.
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Jack_in_VA
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said by ArgMeMatey:

said by cowboyro:

WOW.. just wow...

I am sure Dennis does not want to break out the troll spray again, fellas.

We all have opinions and different experiences and they're all welcome, especially if you have third-party sources to back up your assertions.

Otherwise try not to be offended when someone, or everyone, disagrees with you, and we'll all be fine.

You note I backed out. No need to continue.


Subaru
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Greenwich, CT

reply to Lurch77

said by Lurch77:

Most dehumidifiers pass the air first over the evaporator, then over the condenser. They shouldn't change the temperature of the space significantly. Plus many spaces, like a basement, are not well suited for installation of a window unit. And the space gets very cold as it runs so much to remove the humidity.

I have a whirlpool and after running for 4 hours you can feel the temp change in the room and more so about 5 ft from the rear in that corner of the room.
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Lurch77
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I'll admit I don't work with small dehumidifiers directly, so I may have been wrong. The one we use is in a large enclosed crawl space, and I can't tell a temp different between using it or not.

The units I work on, such as those from Liebert, run the A/C system, then use electric reheat coils downstream to keep from dropping the space far below setpoint.



Subaru
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When I lived at my condo and had it in the basement I don't think it had much of a temp change unless you ran it pretty much 24/7

Never did spend much time in the basement because of the radon.



Jack_in_VA
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reply to Subaru

said by Subaru:

said by Lurch77:

Most dehumidifiers pass the air first over the evaporator, then over the condenser. They shouldn't change the temperature of the space significantly. Plus many spaces, like a basement, are not well suited for installation of a window unit. And the space gets very cold as it runs so much to remove the humidity.

I have a whirlpool and after running for 4 hours you can feel the temp change in the room and more so about 5 ft from the rear in that corner of the room.

I have a Whirlpool also and running it on my glass enclosed porch it does raise the temperature. Also the discharge air off the condenser is warmer than the room temp so it has to be raising it.


Subaru
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yeah same here


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