 hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
Re: any nfl network update? "Its just a point of view from TWC scaring subscribers with huge increases if they include NFL. Truth of the fact is, even if TWC include NFL in their lineup, subscribers has already been paying for it. With huge subscription fees increases from last and this year NFL could have been paid for. Since it's business, TWC wants more, give us a break."
I think the increases in retransmission agreements has been well documented in the press. If the NFL means that much to you then as a consumer you have a choice. I guess I can only say, Take it.
Hob
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 Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
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Sorry I thought you said "Any sports network" Oh you did!
You took that the wrong way. What I implied is that any sports network Dish has, TW should have no problem coming to terms with.
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Big Bills fan then. Real fans go to games.
I actually don’t enjoy going to live sporting events that much. Due to drunks and the overall stupidness of the people attending, I’d rather just watch it at home and stay away from that stuff. And I still can’t wrap my head around the idea of paying $15-20 for the privilege to park my car in a lot somewhere for 3 hours. In the past two years I’ve been to exactly 1 Sabres game, 1 Bandits game and 0 Bills games.
I guess my close to $1,000 collection worth of official Buffalo Bills On Field appeal I wear during football season, that I will have to re-purchase now that Nike is the official outfitter, not Reebok, means nothing. I guess I’m not a real fan afterall.
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When a new network is added, TWC passes on the increase to the subscribers. So what is the big deal? They never lose money otherwise they would be out of business. Now if Time Warner owned a portion of the NFL Network, it would be on all their cable systems just like the fledgling Pac 12 Network that will be added in August. How much interest does the Pac 12 Network generate in the East? I would call that a niche channel. |
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Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
join:2005-07-16 | The difference is that the PAC 12 Network will be in the Sports Pass in areas that are outside of that conference. |
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said by hobgoblin:I think the increases in retransmission agreements has been well documented in the press. If the NFL means that much to you then as a consumer you have a choice. I guess I can only say, Take it.
Hob
Yes, the increase in retransmission agreement has been well documented and the agreed price is a secret. Why do you think so? Because they are smart enough to not let us know how much profit they addup ontop of what is agreed for.
As a consumer, if I only have a choice, I would have been gone as fast as I can. |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8 | reply to Steve Mehs
"You took that the wrong way."
You probably wrote it the wrong way. As a company whose service area is a lot bigger than TWC they really should have everything!
"I guess my close to $1,000 collection worth of official Buffalo Bills On Field appeal I wear during football season, that I will have to re-purchase now that Nike is the official outfitter, not Reebok, means nothing. I guess I’m not a real fan afterall."
and this has exactly what to do with TWC. Take it up with the NFL, while you are there mention a sports tier to them.
Hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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Steve MehsGun Control Is Using A Steady HandPremium
join:2005-07-16 | quote:
You probably wrote it the wrong way.
Cool, it's my fault.
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As a company whose service area is a lot bigger than TWC they really should have everything!
What about Insight? Their service footprint is much smaller than TW, and up until a few days ago they had NFL Network.
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and this has exactly what to do with TWC. Take it up with the NFL, while you are there mention a sports tier to them.
It has to do with you calling me not a real fan, which really has nothing to do with TWC, but I figured I'd respond since you brought it up.
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
"Yes, the increase in retransmission agreement has been well documented and the agreed price is a secret. Why do you think so? Because they are smart enough to not let us know how much profit they addup ontop of what is agreed for."
How much do McDonald's pay for Burgers or Potatoes?
How much does your local Ford dealer pay for a Ford Focus?
How about JCP and the T shirt I bought, how much profit on top of that.
looking forward to your answers.
Hob
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8 | reply to Steve Mehs
" What about Insight? Their service footprint is much smaller than TW, and up until a few days ago they had NFL Network."
So did Adelphia. They survived.
hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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You choose to compare TWC with Mcdonalds and other retail stores. It's apples and oranges. They(retailers) do not shut off their stores when the ingredients goes up and when they do increase the prices, it's reasonable.
TWC chooses packages that will give them the most profit. Its never been what subscribers like. Everytime there is retrans renewal or new channels(NFL), TWC blames the provider of overpricing their offerings. It's fine to negotiate and agree at a reasonable price and be passed to subscribers..Problem is we have not seen popular channels like the NFL and the subscription increases keeps on coming. Do you see the picture? |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
"Do you see the picture?"
No i don't.
Thanks.
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So they offer channels like Tennis channel, Golf Channel, Big 10 network, and in the future Pac 12 network as a part of a normal package, but NFL Network should be a niche channel only provided in a sports tier?!?! It is clearly just an excuse they are creating to hide their greed because every other major television provider in the nation has NFL Network available to consumers. |
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said by hobgoblin:"Do you see the picture?"
No i don't.
Thanks.
Hob
Of course, you don't. However, subscribers knows, JuicyJ hit it right on target.
" It is clearly just an excuse they are creating to hide their greed because every other major television provider in the nation has NFL Network available to consumers."
TWC you are running out of credible reasons, everybody else has agreed with NFL. |
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Los Angeles, CA | reply to hobgoblin
said by hobgoblin:My personal opinion is that they all belong on a sports tier. I agree. |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
"Of course, you don't. However, subscribers knows, JuicyJ hit it right on target.
" It is clearly just an excuse they are creating to hide their greed because every other major television provider in the nation has NFL Network available to consumers.""
Actually it makes no sense. Would not a greedy person add the channel and a percentage profit and then charge their subscribers more?
Hob
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According to what I was reading nfl network
" "Conversations are ongoing and we remain hopeful that we can reach a resolution. But we have been close before only to have it fall apart so we need to be cautious about predicting success."
The pro football league said it had made new negotiating overtures, offering to freeze the price on its two properties."
Ok if it offered to freeze the price then time warner must be hell bent on making its subs go to satellite for nfl programming.
»www.multichannel.com/article/488···tems.php |
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They are only willing to offer the station as a sports package or a pay per view package and not willing to offer it in a normal package like I had with Insight cable before this piece of sh1t TWC bought them out. I have no other cable options and I can't get Direct TV without spending a fortune to chop down a tree. It is clearly greed because the NFL even offered to give TWC the same rate they had with Insight and at a 0% rate increase. How can you defend a cable company that is the only one of all the major cable companies that does not offer NFL network? |
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said by hobgoblin:"Of course, you don't. However, subscribers knows, JuicyJ hit it right on target.
" It is clearly just an excuse they are creating to hide their greed because every other major television provider in the nation has NFL Network available to consumers.""
Actually it makes no sense. Would not a greedy person add the channel and a percentage profit and then charge their subscribers more?
Hob
Why would you add the channel if subscribers are already overpaying and on top of that what TWC wants is put NFL on pay per view. Looks clever not.
Negotiate with NFL in good faith for your subscribers, that's all we ask. |
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Here's an article discussing rates that some channels charge per subscriber. The is in the top 10 in terms of cost per channel.
»www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail···ees.aspx
While I do agree the cost of the content is expensive, every other major provider has managed to strike a deal with the NFL for the network and RedZone. My cable provider has put it on a sports tier. Comcast has as well and this is the original reason why TWC wouldn't carry the NFL network.
Considering that TWC has deals for just about every other HD channel out there (I'm sure they're missing a few), there should be no reason why they can't figure out a way to get this channel on their system. In the end this just seems like an argument between an old married couple. They each won't budge from their position, and the only person that loses is the TWC subscribers. |
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