| [Rant] Another Useless Car "Feature".... Heated Steering Wheel Are you joking? I just heard on the radio an ad for the new 2013 BMW vehicles, "heated steering wheel". Really? I thought it was warm enough with the heat on and the windows closed on cold days 
You stupid bumbling idiots, why don't you give us useful features such as all-wheel drive or satellite wi-fi inside the vehicle anywhere in the world or an internal diagnostic code-reading computer integrated in the GPS screen whereas you don't have to take it to a mechanic and pay money to him to read-out trouble codes? |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | Re: [Rant] Another Useless Car "Feature".... Heated Steering Whe It is a luxury vehicle... It is very likely with a cold package so folks who drive in the winter would likely get this. Heated seats are soooooo nice. Though I would not get heated steering wheel but luxury vehicles have things that most other cars don't.
They have all wheel drive cars (and BMW with X in the model is all wheel drive). Sat is horrendously expensive and I believe wifi has been played with but what wifi do you connect to? Do you really want BMW to start a wifi network across the world? A city can't get wifi to work well - how do you expect BMW (or any other car manufacturer) to do so? Not to mention - there are serious limitations to wifi...
Most people that BMWs don't read their own codes at all - especially the higher end models. Most people don't know what the causes are for codes - hint - the codes do not list cause so a mechanic will still be needed.
In short - just because you think it is stupid - does not mean everyone thinks like you... There are LOTS of folks who think ABS, airbags, crumple zones, seat belts are all crap and not needed.
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to Xstar_Lumini
How about cooled steering wheels?
at the end of a day at work I find my wheel is burning hot (hard to touch) so a cooled wheel would be nice, but heated WTF |
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | If you live in New England or live in the snow belt... I am fairly certain you might like heated steering wheel.
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
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kudos:3 | said by CylonRed:If you live in New England or live in the snow belt... I am fairly certain you might like heated steering wheel.
I've visited and no I like a cold wheel and cold seat. It feels refreshing. |
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| Re: [Rant] Another Useless Car "Feature".... Heated St Visiting there and residing there are two different experiences. I lived in Chicago and heated seats and steering wheels would be a nice but not necessary feature. |
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Put one of those reflective sunshades in the windshield. You can also buy window shade type devices to put up. The one other thing is too bump the windows down just a small amount. Not enough to be easily visible, but enough to take pressure off the window seal. That allows a small amount of ventilation. Obviously if you are in a high car theft area you cannot lower the windows at all. I sometimes get to work in places with very secure parking lots and can leave the window lowered the way I suggested. I do not lower it more because of all the afternoon rain we get. The steering wheel is usually the same temperature as the ambient air outside if I use the shades. They cost about $20 for a basic one. The fancy window shade models are about $50. |
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to Xstar_Lumini
BTW - this is not just a BMW option - many, many,many other car manufacturers have the option especially for their higher end models (like the Town and Country).
"I've visited and no I like a cold wheel and cold seat. It feels refreshing."
Cool - you like it that way - plenty other folks don't. Personally- hard cold leather in the winter sucks but that is me personally.
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to davidhoffman
said by davidhoffman:Put one of those reflective sunshades in the windshield. You can also buy window shade type devices to put up. The one other thing is too bump the windows down just a small amount. Not enough to be easily visible, but enough to take pressure off the window seal. That allows a small amount of ventilation. Obviously if you are in a high car theft area you cannot lower the windows at all. I sometimes get to work in places with very secure parking lots and can leave the window lowered the way I suggested. I do not lower it more because of all the afternoon rain we get. The steering wheel is usually the same temperature as the ambient air outside if I use the shades. They cost about $20 for a basic one. The fancy window shade models are about $50.
But the ambient air outside is not cool ether.
I'm not going to risk theft (its not a high crime area but if you make it easy for them then you won't likely get squat from the cops.
Then you never know if it might rain that day.
when the ambient air outside is about 97+ I don't want my wheel being that hot ether, I'd like a nice 65f wheel. |
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 KarrideSlower Traffic Keep RightPremium
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Germantown, TN | reply to Xstar_Lumini
Re: [Rant] Another Useless Car "Feature".... Heated Steering Whe said by Xstar_Lumini:.... internal diagnostic code-reading computer integrated in the GPS screen whereas you don't have to take it to a mechanic and pay money to him to read-out trouble codes?
Not 100% sure about the newer models, but on most 80's and 90's BMW's it was possible to have the computer spit out the codes without a reader by turning the ignition to on and then pressing the gas 5 times within 3 seconds, then counting the CEL flashes.
In fact, most modern cars I've come across have some way to display the codes without a reader (on my 01 ram for instance, I turn the key from off to on three times, and the odometer will display the codes). Sure you still have to google the code, but if you can't manage that, you probably shouldn't be working on the problem anyway. |
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 davidgGood Bye My FriendPremium,MVM
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Re: [Rant] Another Useless Car "Feature".... Heated St i just got a new Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 Outdoorsman and my final choices were the one i got and 1 that was a couple grand more. The more expensive one had a heated steering wheel as well, so it is not just luxury vehicles.
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 WeirdalPremium
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Grand Island, NE
kudos:20 | reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:when the ambient air outside is about 97+ I don't want my wheel being that hot ether, I'd like a nice 65f wheel.
A 97 degree object will not be too hot to touch.
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DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium
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kudos:3 | said by Weirdal:said by DarkLogix:when the ambient air outside is about 97+ I don't want my wheel being that hot ether, I'd like a nice 65f wheel.
A 97 degree object will not be too hot to touch. Its hot to ME. |
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1 edit | said by DarkLogix:said by Weirdal:said by DarkLogix:when the ambient air outside is about 97+ I don't want my wheel being that hot ether, I'd like a nice 65f wheel.
A 97 degree object will not be too hot to touch. Its hot to ME. Except that INSIDE your car, it will probably be much hotter than 97. |
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 GbcueP.E.Premium
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Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:said by Weirdal:said by DarkLogix:when the ambient air outside is about 97+ I don't want my wheel being that hot ether, I'd like a nice 65f wheel.
A 97 degree object will not be too hot to touch. Its hot to ME. Wear some gloves. |
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Later for steering wheels...we need heated keyboards as standard features!
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How about bringing back "wing windows"? You know the usually triangular shaped windows just forward of the main driver`s side door windows.
You can choose to leave these open while driving and direct airflow inside without opening up any main window, or even save gas by NOT turning on the air conditioning on those "nice days".
I believe these used to be standard on most cars before we ALL HAD to HAVE air conditioning.
You can also leave these "wing windows" open and not worry (too much) about rain entering your vehicle driving or parked unlike a moon roof. |
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| said by mattrixx:How about bringing back "wing windows"? You know the usually triangular shaped windows just forward of the main driver`s side door windows.
You can choose to leave these open while driving and direct airflow inside without opening up any main window, or even save gas by NOT turning on the air conditioning on those "nice days".
I believe these used to be standard on most cars before we ALL HAD to HAVE air conditioning.
You can also leave these "wing windows" open and not worry (too much) about rain entering your vehicle driving or parked unlike a moon roof.
lol!!! I remember those, have not seen them for about 15 or 20 years probably! If you wouldn't had mentioned them I would have never remembered them 
BTW you'll spend MORE gas having your windows open than having your air conditioner on, it was on Myth Buster's, the air drag that windows create spends more gas than the engine turning an extra belt. |
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Long Island
kudos:6 | reply to davidg
said by davidg:i just got a new Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 Outdoorsman and my final choices were the one i got and 1 that was a couple grand more. The more expensive one had a heated steering wheel as well, so it is not just luxury vehicles.
How are you liking that Outdoorsman model? How's gas mileage? Which engine/tranny combo? |
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I didn't see that particular Myth Busters episode, but I would bet they were referring to conventional open car window(s) and not to relatively small "wing windows",
which can be manipulated to different angles / openings for fresh air? |
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