 | And now a message from our dark overlords New Corporate Canadian website!
»www.SayNoToBell.ca
Brought to you by:
Louis Audet President and CEO Cogeco Cable Inc.
Lee Bragg CEO Eastlink
Pierre Karl Péladeau President and CEO Quebecor Inc.
I find it funny that Pierre Karl Péladeau is giving me this warning as I pay more than anyone else in Canada for shitty cable service: WARNING: Letting one company control so much TV programming in Canada could be dangerous to your wallet. Click here to find out how.
Pierre! Think you can lower my bill by 30$? oh.. oh yeah, I forgot. You are the only cable provider and have a monopoly control in Quebec. Silly me...
Are these people really ones to talk? |
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 | So this is a CableCo "Spy vs Spy" website... Rogers is not on the list.
Not sure who the actual good guy(s) are as they are all corporations that milk Canadians. |
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 | reply to Ahh droool said by Ahh droool :Pierre! Think you can lower my bill by 30$? oh.. oh yeah, I forgot. You are the only cable provider and have a monopoly control in Quebec. Silly me...
Are these people really ones to talk? They're not exactly shining examples of competitive forces at work, but the message still has merit. -- MNSi Internet - »www.mnsi.net |
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 2 edits | The message as merit but they are not doing it to protect us. If its allowed it will cause all these cableCo's to actually try to compete and they fear that like the plague.
Bell should not be given this much power over content but that ship as sailed long ago. |
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 plebelPremium join:2011-01-27 Ottawa, ON | reply to Ahh droool They're definitely out to protect their own interests rather than those of the consumer. Nevertheless, they're correct about the extent of media concentration in this country. One thing that would go a long way to resolving this problem is the separation of delivery and content providers. Structural separation has been discussed many times on these forums. Unfortunately the government and the CRTC don't seem to see any problem with the way things are going. I was going to suggest this in the SayNoToBell online petition, however it won't allow any editing of the message. That's sneaky. I suppose they want to control the message to better suit their purposes. I'll write my own message, thank you very much. |
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 | Their purpose, if you read it, is not the Canadian public like the websites pretends to be about. It's about their million dollar shareholders. |
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 | reply to Ahh droool Oh, I agree that their motivations are NOT what they say, and they're against consolidation simply because they're not the ones doing it.
Not withstanding that, Bell will be in a position to drive up per end subscriber charges for ALL players, the difference being is that THEY get to keep the money when a subscriber is on Bell OR Cogeco OR Eastlink OR XYZ independent cableco.
Basically, it will become less important to Bell who you buy your TV from - they profit regardless. -- MNSi Internet - »www.mnsi.net |
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 | said by HeadSpinning:Bell will be in a position to drive up per end subscriber charges for ALL players, the difference being is that THEY get to keep the money when a subscriber is on Bell OR Cogeco OR Eastlink OR XYZ independent cableco.
Basically, it will become less important to Bell who you buy your TV from - they profit regardless. You explained it well. |
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 | reply to HeadSpinning said by HeadSpinning:Oh, I agree that their motivations are NOT what they say, and they're against consolidation simply because they're not the ones doing it. Actually, PK Peladeau is one of the ones doing it. He's just not as successful at it as Bell.
His Quebecor Inc. company owns Videotron (internet service, cable TV distribution, wireless phone, movie rental/distribution), Sun Media, Sun News, QMI Media, TVA (one of the two main private TV networks in Quebec), TVA Publications (70 magazines), Musicor (record production company), Distribution Select (record distribution company), Archambault (record retail and web store), 16 book editing and distribution companies, CEC, the largest editor of school books in Quebec.
Plus they have plans to buy an NHL team and establish their own, new, sports TV channel.
BTW none of this, except the French newspaper/magazine business, was actually built by Quebecor. PKP has just preyed on successful Quebec companies, brought them to their knees by organizing deliberate attacks against them, only to buy them off at their lowest and gutting them of what made them successful to begin with only to keep their well-respected name.
In other words, he's trying to be Bell. Except Bell is better at it than he is. |
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| reply to HeadSpinning said by HeadSpinning:Oh, I agree that their motivations are NOT what they say, and they're against consolidation simply because they're not the ones doing it.
Not withstanding that, Bell will be in a position to drive up per end subscriber charges for ALL players, the difference being is that THEY get to keep the money when a subscriber is on Bell OR Cogeco OR Eastlink OR XYZ independent cableco.
Basically, it will become less important to Bell who you buy your TV from - they profit regardless. Very well said,
I'd also argue it's much better that they're at their own throats rather than mine for a change. -- Support Bacteria -- It's the Only Culture Some People Have |
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 | El Quintron, We're next :/ |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | reply to El Quintron said by El Quintron:said by HeadSpinning:Oh, I agree that their motivations are NOT what they say, and they're against consolidation simply because they're not the ones doing it.
Not withstanding that, Bell will be in a position to drive up per end subscriber charges for ALL players, the difference being is that THEY get to keep the money when a subscriber is on Bell OR Cogeco OR Eastlink OR XYZ independent cableco.
Basically, it will become less important to Bell who you buy your TV from - they profit regardless. Very well said, I'd also argue it's much better that they're at their own each other's throats rather than mine for a change. I agree with both of you.
The only trouble is that they are fighting over the dagger which will eventually spill OUR financial blood and spell OUR demise ! 
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| said by Davesnothere:The only trouble is that they are fighting over the dagger which will eventually spill OUR financial blood and spell OUR demise !  True dat! The point was simply that while they're busy screwing each other they're not screwing us. I was implying that they're always screwing us anyways....
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | said by El Quintron:....I was implying that they're always screwing us anyways....
 Yes, absolutely.
Though since my switching to START cable, Cogeco only has the head in. 
But my Ferengi senses were tingling at the opportunity to use the 'dagger' line, and I simply couldn't resist.
Sometimes, I think up stuff ahead, and wait for the moment of optimum impact.
But that one just popped into one of my cortexes, and begged me to say it !  |
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| said by Davesnothere:But my Ferengi senses were tingling at the opportunity to use the 'dagger' line, and I simply couldn't resist. I know what you're saying... I figured out a clever comparison yesterday and I've been dying to use it. -- Support Bacteria -- It's the Only Culture Some People Have |
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 milnoc join:2001-03-05 H3B kudos:1 | reply to Ahh droool They hypocrisy behind all of this is simply hilarious!  |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | said by milnoc:They hypocrisy behind all of this is simply hilarious!  It could completely change the meaning of that old soul song 'What is Hyp' [What is Hip - Tower of Power - 1970's] |
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| reply to Ahh droool The first mistake was to let Bell own ANY channels. They're making this mistake across the border by letting ComCast own Content as well.
How the CRTC allowed the CTV acquisition in the first place, without seeing the glaring conflicts of interest just demonstrates what a lack of foresight they have.
Don't hold your breath if you're waiting for them to admit to the massive blunder. |
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 anakin join:2012-06-04 Montreal, QC | said by CanadianRip:How the CRTC allowed the CTV acquisition in the first place, without seeing the glaring conflicts of interest just demonstrates what a lack of foresight they have.
You're assuming they (the CRTC) lacked foresight. My guess is they knew *exactly* what they were doing. Corruption is everywhere in this country. |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | said by anakin:You're assuming they (the CRTC) lacked foresight. My guess is they knew *exactly* what they were doing. Corruption is everywhere in this country. +1  |
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