 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Verizon spokesperson is dumb The Verizon Wireless spokeswoman, Brenda Raney, said the carrier has been offering the higher tiers of data to customers since June, mainly through customer service via phone or in its stores. The upper tiers were not posted with the original six tiers on the Verizon web site in order to keep the program simple and because "the majority of customers use under 2GB a month,"
Well let see under the old plans people have to get a plan that cost at least $30 and comes with 2 GB of data and $10 per GB overage. Now most people go with this plan since they don't want to spend more than $30 on data. Now since the cap is 2 GB it make perfect sense that people would use LESS than 2 GB. I'd bet a million dollars that if the $30 plan had a 5 GB cap the average amount of use would be higher.
Raney said. "Who would need 20GB?"
Let's see
A) people who don't have access to cable/DSL
B) people that actually want to use this supposed great new LTE shit. What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? |
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| said by BF69:What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster.
For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap.
And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.
We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network. |
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| reply to Crookshanks quote: And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.
stupid or not, if that is what consumers want, then so be it. Sometimes people need their porn. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | reply to Crookshanks said by Crookshanks:said by BF69:What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster. For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap. And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen. We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network. +1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum. -- »www.mittromney.com/s/repeal-and-···bamacare »www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | reply to Crookshanks said by Crookshanks:said by BF69:What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster. For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap. Well if Pandora only uses 64 kbps then you don't need 4G for that do you? I fact if you're using les than 2 GB a month there very little benefit of 4G speeds.
Also 64 Kbps? That sucks. Even crappy mp3s are 128 kbps. Also I believe Spotify can do 320 kbps over mobile. Even at 64 kbps 2 1/2 hours a day= 2GB a month. So there's your limit just on that.
And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen. And some of us do. In fact Verizon show off people watching Netflix on it's commercials. In fact it touts watching online video as one of the benefits of 4G. So what you are saying is Verizon is saying "Here is what you can do on 4G but don't actually do it".
We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network. To say few people go over 2 GB when the cap is 2 GB and conclude that is all people want to use is obtuse. Of course people aren't going over 2 GB they don't want overages. It's like saying if people are driving 70 MPH on the interstate when the speed limit is also 70 MPH it's because they don't want to go any faster than that anyways. Go to Montana where they don't have speed limits and I can guarantee you the average car is going faster than 70 MPH.
If people were using less than 2 GB Verizon wouldn't have killed off unlimited.
I'm not saying they should offer unlimited I know their network can't handle that but the caps are a joke. The $50 data plan has 1 GB. And you can share with 10 devices. Ok a 100 MB a month? Is there a point? |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | reply to Linklist said by Linklist:said by Crookshanks:said by BF69:What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster. For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap. And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen. We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network. +1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum. Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? Hell voice and messaging don't use 4G, 4G is strictly data but if I'm having to use Wi-Fi then WTF is the point of 4G? So I can use it 45 minutes a month? Why am I paying $50-$100 a month for that? |
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| reply to Crookshanks said by Crookshanks:said by BF69:What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen. Why do you assume that the cell phone's screen is the one displaying the full length movie? What if I want to tether my cell phone to my 18.4" Vaio laptop? |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by ke4pym:said by Crookshanks:said by BF69:What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE? And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen. Why do you assume that the cell phone's screen is the one displaying the full length movie? What if I want to tether my cell phone to my 18.4" Vaio laptop? Because he's never heard of MHL or phones with HDMI out. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | reply to BF69 said by BF69:Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? Hell voice and messaging don't use 4G, 4G is strictly data but if I'm having to use Wi-Fi then WTF is the point of 4G? So I can use it 45 minutes a month? Why am I paying $50-$100 a month for that? So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear. -- »www.mittromney.com/s/repeal-and-···bamacare »www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | said by Linklist:+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum. said by BF69:Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear. Wait, what? So, you can load pages faster on 4G while on WiFi?
This is one of those "Huh?" posts, eh? |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | reply to Linklist said by Linklist:said by BF69:Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? Hell voice and messaging don't use 4G, 4G is strictly data but if I'm having to use Wi-Fi then WTF is the point of 4G? So I can use it 45 minutes a month? Why am I paying $50-$100 a month for that? So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear. That's a pretty large page if it takes 30 seconds to load. Secondly, $100 a month so you can load a page a few seconds faster? |
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| reply to Simba7 said by Simba7:said by Linklist:+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum. said by BF69:Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear. Wait, what? So, you can load pages faster on 4G while on WiFi? This is one of those "Huh?" posts, eh? Doesn't that depend on your internet speed your Wi-Fi connection links to? With 4G I can get up to 25X the speed of my GFs DSL internet connection. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | said by aaronwt:Doesn't that depend on your internet speed your Wi-Fi connection links to? With 4G I can get up to 25X the speed of my GFs DSL internet connection. I have a 30/5 Optimum Cable Modem here.
Plus, you can surf.. but how long until you spill over your cap and get nailed for overages? |
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| reply to Simba7 said by Simba7:said by Linklist:+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum. said by BF69:Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear. Wait, what? So, you can load pages faster on 4G while on WiFi? This is one of those "Huh?" posts, eh? Have you used much "free" or hotel wifi? It's usually slower than snot compared to Verizon LTE. -- AT&T U-Hearse - RIP Unlimited Internet 1995-2011 Rethink Billable.
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 Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | said by djrobx:Have you used much "free" or hotel wifi? It's usually slower than snot compared to Verizon LTE. Better than having an embolism when I receive my bill. |
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