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SirQAM

@verizon.net
reply to blacknoi

Re: [iO] New Jersey All Digital

said by blacknoi:

said by Bob4:

If your TV has a QAM tuner, you should still get the Broadcast Basic channels without a box.

I specifically asked that when I called customer service a week ago. The woman put me on hold and said I would get NO channels in clear QAM. I'm on the morris system.

I'm not saying she was right, but thats what she said.

Per current FCC regulations: No cable TV providers can encrypt the basic tier inclusive of ALL broadcast television stations. The only exception exists within the New York City boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn where Cablevision secured a waiver due to their assertions of signal theft from phone and internet only customers.

To blacknoi: I recommend you connect the Cable TV directly to the input of a TV with a QAM tuner. Then perform a full channel scan. Chances are if the TV can receive digital channels using an antenna, it can also receive Clear QAM.

Of course, it is in Cablevision's financial interest to encourage their subscribers to have a converter on every TV, even if the representatives provide vague answers to customers questions that would confuse a lay person.

TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-04
East Stroudsburg, PA
kudos:3
said by SirQAM :

Per current FCC regulations: No cable TV providers can encrypt the basic tier inclusive of ALL broadcast television stations. The only exception exists within the New York City boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn where Cablevision secured a waiver due to their assertions of signal theft from phone and internet only customers.

Correct, but it does not appear that will be the case for much longer since it appears the FCC is going to allow encryption of basic. I suspect that is why Cablevision is talking about having a DTA available within a year since with a DTA they can make a more persuasive argument that the customer is not being disadvantaged.

»www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-2···als.html

»www.zdnet.com/fcc-to-allow-telev···0003483/
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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
reply to Pooz
I'm in Jefferson as well as hence the Lake Hopatcong, NJ designation and thus in the Morris County system. I just did my weekly QAM/Analog scan and I show no further changes and no messages showing on any analog channel stating I need a box. I still receive 39 analog channels and the same QAM channels I've been getting both basic channels and otherwise. They're full of hot air right now. I've read previously about what TheWiseGuy is referring to and only then will QAM tuners on Digital/HDTV eventually be useless.


StudioTech
Off The Air

join:2001-10-10
Edison, NJ
reply to SirQAM
It's actually the Bronx, not Queens that CV services.


SirQAM

@verizon.net
said by StudioTech:

It's actually the Bronx, not Queens that CV services.

Thank you for clarifying, StudioTech. I stand corrected.


pa prowler

join:2003-09-11
Matamoras, PA
reply to kickass69
Got "the letter" today in Matamoras, PA. . . "all televisions will require digital equipment by October 16, 2012".


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
Ahh, a month later than here in the Morris County system, I guess PA is truly last in everything CV.

HoundNJ

join:2010-10-08
Denville, NJ
Receiver the letter today. Oct. 16 is the day for the digital cutover in Denville NJ.


mbernste
Boosted
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
reply to kickass69
I have yet to get the letter here in Piscataway. Maybe we're last since it's where the office is for the Raritan system? I really don't see where one has to do with the other, but who the heck knows.


uroberto

join:2001-05-01
Piscataway, NJ
I got the letter here a couple of weeks ago. Piscataway's date is October 9.

Bob4
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
reply to mbernste
I'm on the Raritan system and we switched to all-digital over a month ago.


mbernste
Boosted
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
said by Bob4:

I'm on the Raritan system and we switched to all-digital over a month ago.

Maybe in your neighborhood, but I still get the analog channels via a regular cable tuner built into my tv.


ilsno

@optonline.net
reply to uroberto
Get her done already! Want to see what kind of changes Cablevision makes once the entire footprint is all digital. Im assuming the cloud based guide, and hopefully the rest of the HD channels for Showtime and Starz finally get added.


mbernste
Boosted
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
reply to uroberto
said by uroberto:

I got the letter here a couple of weeks ago. Piscataway's date is October 9.

Odd that I haven't gotten it yet. Perhaps because I have a cable card device on one set and a box on the other.


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
reply to HoundNJ
Well then I guess that's for the Morris County system in general not just Denville. Though it would seem strange that different towns within a system get different dates.

Bob4
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
said by kickass69:

Though it would seem strange that different towns within a system get different dates.

Different head ends. Don't you have head ends in Parsippany and Mount Olive?


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
I honestly don't know. Never needed to ask either on the phone or when a tech has been here in the past.


Tradewind
Ultra 101
Premium
join:2005-11-08
Marlboro, NJ
reply to kickass69
Is their a road map for deployment?

Bob4
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
reply to kickass69
If you ask, I bet you'll find I'm right.


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

1 edit
reply to Tradewind
I guess my letter above only states the cut off to take advantage of getting boxes 'free' for a year but not the actual date of when it'll happen apparently.

I originally used this link: »optimum.custhelp.com/app/answers···elated/1

Click on 'Click Here' in the second paragraph, that's the deployment schedule I've always referenced.


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
reply to HoundNJ
According to my link above Randolph goes all digital on the 27th while Parsippany on the 20th. But your letter states a month later so we'll see ultimately.

rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ
reply to kickass69
I believe the Mine Hill Hub Office serves the greater Lake Hopatcong area. So I think the digital conversion dates vary according to the Hub Office (i.e., the place where the QAM modulators are located and the HFC (Access) network begins). I do not believe the Hub Office conversion dates are published, just the rather wide windows for the conversion of the entire system (Morris/Randolph in this case)

andrewc2

join:2011-06-05
Matamoras, PA
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

1 edit
reply to kickass69
Yeah we got the letter in Matamoras, PA as well. What areas after this will not have been transitioned to all digital?

Also anyone know if you could use the SA box and Samsung box at the same time in the same room, we typically have our tv's setup to watch digital cable or analog cable so if something's recording it can record and you can watch something else live.

Also are the cable card tuners out there for TV's rather than paying for cable boxes, after the year's up, a few $2/m cards wouldn't be too bad on the bill vs. $7x 4 boxes

rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ
said by andrewc2:

.

Also are the cable card tuners out there for TV's rather than paying for cable boxes, after the year's up, a few $2/m cards wouldn't be too bad on the bill vs. $7x 4 boxes

The short answer is no, CableCARD-ready TVs are a thing of the past. See the recent thread below

»[iO] Plain box for cablecard?

andrewc2

join:2011-06-05
Matamoras, PA
how about dvr's other than tivo?

rtbond

join:2007-11-28
Hopatcong, NJ
I mentioned some of the PC-based CableCard DVR solutions in the link above (»[iO] Plain box for cablecard?), which includes Windows 7 Media Center based solutions.

The Moxi HD DVR was recently discontinued. The Ceton Q is not yet available. I am not sure if there are any others.

BarryS14

join:2007-02-12
reply to kickass69
Got my letter in the mail yesterday. The Rockland system is going all digital on Oct. 16. Cablevision must be running behind.


civic110

@optonline.net
I'm confused by all these letters...

I received the digital letter indicating my system was going digital on June 5. Turns out the blue screen just showed up this past Tuesday, so the conversion has begun just now, over three months after receiving the letter. Of course, now I have tons of time to wait until the blue screen goes off the TV's without boxes attached to them.

andrewc2

join:2011-06-05
Matamoras, PA
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
reply to kickass69
When I picked up 4 boxes at the store yesterday I only got SA boxes, 3x 4200's and 1x 4250. They must have had Samsung boxes at some point as they were familiar with the initialization process.

Because I was getting four boxes it meant 4 cards, so I asked if the new boxes w/o cards is easier for them to enter into the system. They said no, it's just as long a process, they just don't have physical card to scan it's a digital card basically.

Bob4
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
All three Samsung boxes I got had extra bar code labels taped to the bottom, blocking the cooling vents.