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Semaphore
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join:2003-11-18
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[Equipment] Yet another T200 bites the dust

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I have only one Trylon T200 in the network and I have very little on it. They are somewhat notorious for doing just exactly what you see here.... moral of the story don't overload your towers, and if you do, expect them to look like this if there's a good wind


nunya
Who is John Galt?
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join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
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Ouch. Cable company?


jcremin

join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
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reply to Semaphore
Those dishes at the top look quite large for the tower...



battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

reply to Semaphore
That looks like too much loading for that tower. That being said I had a 72ish footer with a 2 2' solid dishs @ 10 and 12 feet and 1 omni at the top fold over between section 2 and 3.
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voxframe

join:2010-08-02

reply to Semaphore
We have 2 of these in the grid and I fear them with a passion.

I pray they never fold with the climber on top.



Semaphore
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join:2003-11-18
101010

reply to nunya
No just co-lo'd there. There was a good wind the day it happened. Probably 60 mph peak, but just the same: if someone aims for a class 4 installation they can expect to get class 4 results... and the T200 shouldn't make class 3 no matter how Trylon twists the numbers - they are scary beasts. Seems they like to fold at section 7.... which if you climb them it gets sketchy from Section 7+ and I'll climb some pretty crazy stuff. Use lock tite, or check them every three months or they'll just unscrew and fall over anyways.

VOX - we've had this conversation before



Semaphore
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join:2003-11-18
101010

reply to jcremin
I think they are 32 db Rockets without radomes... apparently a bad cost savings idea


OHSrob

join:2011-06-08

reply to Semaphore
Ouch that really suck's.

We put our backhaul's lower on the towers to keep the wind loading on the tower down a bit.

Just a trip to the home depot and our scrap pile and we threw together a mount for the rocket dish to go to the side of the tower.

If you want to see an example of what we do here is one below.

»WISP ontario high speed Site #6



John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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reply to Semaphore
Dish without a radome is a bad idea...the radome improves the aero qualities significantly.



Inssomniak
The Glitch
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join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON
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reply to OHSrob

said by OHSrob:

Ouch that really suck's.

We put our backhaul's lower on the towers to keep the wind loading on the tower down a bit.

Just a trip to the home depot and our scrap pile and we threw together a mount for the rocket dish to go to the side of the tower.

If you want to see an example of what we do here is one below.

»WISP ontario high speed Site #6

That tower looks familiar what area are you in?
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OHSrob

join:2011-06-08

2 edits

Durham Region and Clarington Regions.

edit: I have one tower in karawatha lakes as well covering cresswell and an expansion plan for there. I will probably end up using EORN to get a lan extension to my main pop for the Karawatha lakes side. I only have a continuous 20-27 megabit's half duplex roughly feeding that part of my network right now. Hopefully my link in will have enough bandwidth to last me long enough till I can get fiber there.

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Semaphore
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join:2003-11-18
101010

reply to OHSrob
Same here - omni on a short stick or panels near the top and any Parabolic's are lower down.... back to back solid parabolic's at the top of a tower = bad idea. T200 in general = bad idea...

On the topic - I have yet to see it for myself, but there's another ISP near Kemptville who has apparently taken a Goldenugget top section, flipped it upside down and used the top collar to mount it on top of a pipe in the top of a DMX68 :-0 The reason : he needed more height and wanted to have more mounting space than a pipe would provide.... I really need to get down there and take a picture of it if it's still standing


LLigetfa

join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
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LOL

I have inlaws that live down your way and frequently go there. The wife does all the driving so I get to rubberneck at all the wonky tower and mast installs. What I see never ceases to amaze me and I often wonder if the cowboy that did it is someone on this forum.

I mean, the stuff defies all common sense and the laws of physics! I guess for only so long, eh.
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Inssomniak
The Glitch
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Cayuga, ON
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reply to OHSrob

said by OHSrob:

Durham Region and Clarington Regions.

Nope never seen it then. Just saw on your website where you are, I dont get up there too often and only to fix the odd LED sign.
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OHSrob

join:2011-06-08

said by Inssomniak:

said by OHSrob:

Durham Region and Clarington Regions.

Nope never seen it then. Just saw on your website where you are, I dont get up there too often and only to fix the odd LED sign.

Heh you don't see many of those around these day's, Did you fix the broken led sign for paddy's market by chance ? (it was broken for 3 month's once and is the only led sign ive seen in the last 10 years)

Also my site is out of date I need to get around to updating it. I have many more towers since then .


Inssomniak
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Cayuga, ON
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said by OHSrob:

said by Inssomniak:

said by OHSrob:

Durham Region and Clarington Regions.

Nope never seen it then. Just saw on your website where you are, I dont get up there too often and only to fix the odd LED sign.

Heh you don't see many of those around these day's, Did you fix the broken led sign for paddy's market by chance ? (it was broken for 3 month's once and is the only led sign ive seen in the last 10 years)

Also my site is out of date I need to get around to updating it. I have many more towers since then .

Doesnt sound familiar, I mostly do the newer colour LED stuff for commercial properties and live events like the "jumbo tron" in Rogers Centre, BMO Field, electronic billboards, etc, and the pic is what we just finished installing 2 of at Maple Leaf Gardens! Yes they will still be playing hockey in there!

Sorry, back on topic.
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Semaphore
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101010

reply to Semaphore

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For those that wanted to know what the H3ll I mean by an upside down gold nugget...

As I said above I have not personally seen it yet but I've spoken to those that have and a very poor picture on a cell phone and it pretty much looked like above from what I could tell.

I have NO idea what you'd need to be smokin to climb such a thing.


Inssomniak
The Glitch
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Cayuga, ON
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Hahaha yea who would climb it?

Ive seen DMX68's fold over here with a single CPE on it.
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Semaphore
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join:2003-11-18
101010

No one that's sane.


LLigetfa

join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
kudos:1

reply to Inssomniak

said by Inssomniak:

Ive seen DMX68's fold over here with a single CPE on it.

Not what I want to hear. Was thinking of putting one up at my house to get above some fast growing trees. I need it to support two dishes and was considering an 8-bay bow-tie at the top to pull in some OTA from 150 miles away.
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